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It appears as if their recordkeeping is at best, lacking, and at worst, holds evidence of something so bad for Boeing they'd rather pretend there are no records at all.
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It is still not clear whether Boeing kept records about who removed the plug — a panel that takes the place of extra emergency doors when those doors are not required — on the Alaska plane last September.
“If the door plug removal was undocumented there would be no documentation to share,” Boeing said.
Isn't that last statement something? They don't even know if there was a record.
I deal in the much less stressful environment of running a network for a billion-dollar company - if my team messes up, planes do not fall out of the sky. Orders may be delayed, emails not arrive, conference calls drop. It's bad - thousands per minute bad - but nobody actually dies. And if anyone on my team as much as moves a cable without paperwork and approval, it is write-up and quite possibly termination time. Our processes are audited for Sarbanes-Oxley compliance - it's not just sound practice that protects the business, it's actual law. We can get fined for breaking process. Careers end.
Or change the tires. I know the investigation of the latest incident isn't completed yet but could it be that the tire was replaced recently and the mechanic didn't follow procedures? Something as simple as putting the lug nuts on with the flat edge facing inward could have caused it to wobble off. I am sure they do not have the "Best and brightest" on tire rotation/install duty.
All kinds of issues lately - mechanical and other. But all related to the safety of their passengers.
Boeing plane bursts into flames mid-flight.
The flight, which was bound for Fort Myers, Florida had just set off from Houston on Monday when it was forced to make an emergency landing just minutes into the journey.
Crewmember could be heard alerting passengers to the issue. “Hey ladies and gentlemen, we realised something happened outside.” https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-b2509396.html
That was Monday..
Yesterday United Airlines airplane lost a wheel.
Eight seconds after United Flight 35 from San Francisco to Osaka, Japan, took off, one of the wheels from the Boeing 777's left rear landing gear fell off.
To be fair, put up a similar thread for Airbus aircraft. Things happen with those too.
Boeing was once known for safety and engineering. But critics say an emphasis on profits changed that.
Airbus has the better safety record by far. In fact, Boeing's 737 alone has more crashes than all Airbus crashes combined.
Airbus has won more orders than Boeing for five consecutive years.
In the long-running duel between the two aviation rivals, Airbus has pulled far ahead. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/17/b...us-boeing.html
All kinds of issues lately - mechanical and other. But all related to the safety of their passengers.
Boeing plane bursts into flames mid-flight.
Yesterday United Airlines airplane lost a wheel.
Eight seconds after United Flight 35 from San Francisco to Osaka, Japan, took off, one of the wheels from the Boeing 777's left rear landing gear fell off.
United racks up 3 Boeing incidents in a week after aircraft runs off taxiway shortly after landing.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! "The plane burst into flames"? Seriously? The plane suffered an engine failure and returned safely to the airport. Does Boeing make the engine? Nope. Do engine failures happen? Yep.
A wheel fell off a really old plane. Does Boeing do tire replacement for United Airlines? Again, nope.
A plane slid off the runway. Does Boeing fly planes for United? Still nope.
Regarding the 777 with the wheel/tire falling off the plane during takeoff ... if it had to happen, it's a good thing it came off before the gear was retracted into the belly of the aircraft. A loose wheel could have jammed the entire gear when being deployed for landing. Better that it fell off when it did.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! "The plane burst into flames"? Seriously? The plane suffered an engine failure and returned safely to the airport. Does Boeing make the engine? Nope. Do engine failures happen? Yep.
A wheel fell off a really old plane. Does Boeing do tire replacement for United Airlines? Again, nope.
A plane slid off the runway. Does Boeing fly planes for United? Still nope.
Actually that plane didn't slide off the runway. Other reports have said it "skidded". It was actually already down and taxiing to the terminal. Sounds like the pilot made too sharp a turn and got one side of the wheels into the grassy area. That would be pilot error unless some unlikely mechanical failure caused it. Regardless, it's not connected to Boeing.
Boeing was once known for safety and engineering. But critics say an emphasis on profits changed that.
Airbus has the better safety record by far. In fact, Boeing's 737 alone has more crashes than all Airbus crashes combined.
Airbus has won more orders than Boeing for five consecutive years.
In the long-running duel between the two aviation rivals, Airbus has pulled far ahead. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/17/b...us-boeing.html
If you're going to include problems that are not Boeing’s fault along with problems that are their fault, then it;’s only fair to post the same for Airbus. All that award stuff is irrelevant. I want to know about both, or neither, not just one of them. I fly on both. So let’s be fair. One thread may be shorter than the other, but that doesn’t matter. Be fair.
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