Employee Says She Was Fired From Her New Job After Two Days Because She Was Two Minutes Late For Her Shift (applying, contract)
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This. Why would she need her phone, when presumably she had a landline at her desk at work? I think she gave her boss a glimpse of her priorities, by risking being late just to go home and get her phone.
I wonder what other issues he could possible have had with her, after only 2 days on the job.
Separate from this issue, is workplaces like ours depend on you having your phone to contact you. I won't say it's a good thing, but we're pretty much expected to have a phone with us except in those buildings where it's not allowed. As someone else has mentioned, we have 2 factor set up on some of our systems that depend on texting. Management also expects to be able to reach you, even if you're in a meeting.
It's kind of strange, but that's one of the big COVID by products I've seen -- management went from worrying about workers being on their cell phone to almost making it mandatory to carry one. They're quite honest that the only reason it's not fully mandatory is they'd then have to pay for it.
Separate from this issue, is workplaces like ours depend on you having your phone to contact you. I won't say it's a good thing, but we're pretty much expected to have a phone with us except in those buildings where it's not allowed. As someone else has mentioned, we have 2 factor set up on some of our systems that depend on texting. Management also expects to be able to reach you, even if you're in a meeting.
It's kind of strange, but that's one of the big COVID by products I've seen -- management went from worrying about workers being on their cell phone to almost making it mandatory to carry one. They're quite honest that the only reason it's not fully mandatory is they'd then have to pay for it.
In which case, work phones should be provided. How do they manage with an employee who does not own a cell phone?
In which case, work phones should be provided. How do they manage with an employee who does not own a cell phone?
I mean, let's be honest. Who doesn't have a cell phone in 2023? Either someone old and refuses to work the technology or someone on the fringes of society who doesn't want to be tracked by UFOs or CIA. Obviously, I'm being facetious with these examples. But I don't know many run-of-the-mill people who don't have cell phones. Even my tech illiterate parents have smart phones.
It's like asking, "Well, what if they don't have Microsoft Excel skills" for the job that requires them to work in spreadsheets all day. I'll tell ya; they don't get hired.
I mean, let's be honest. Who doesn't have a cell phone in 2023? Either someone old and refuses to work the technology or someone on the fringes of society who doesn't want to be tracked by UFOs or CIA. Obviously, I'm being facetious with these examples. But I don't know many run-of-the-mill people who don't have cell phones. Even my tech illiterate parents have smart phones.
It's like asking, "Well, what if they don't have Microsoft Excel skills" for the job that requires them to work in spreadsheets all day. I'll tell ya; they don't get hired.
Myself for one, and one other in c-d that I know of, as told in another thread. And there are a number of people where I work who do not want to use their cell phones for work stuff.
Your comparison is flawed. Owning or not owning a cell phone has nothing to do with the skills needed to do the job. If the job requires cell phone use, the employer should provide the phone.
my company provide work phones and work trucks, we work on a billable hour so one day it might start at 3am, ten the next day and maybe a couple days with no time, like rain days. i might have to be 200 miles away at 6am or a mile up the road. If we bill time to client, we get paid, most weeks it 55-60 hours
Myself for one, and one other in c-d that I know of, as told in another thread. And there are a number of people where I work who do not want to use their cell phones for work stuff.
Your comparison is flawed. Owning or not owning a cell phone has nothing to do with the skills needed to do the job. If the job requires cell phone use, the employer should provide the phone.
Your question was about whether they owned a cell phone or not, and I addressed that.
If you don't want to use your personal device for work matters, then I suppose that's something you need to take up with management. For things like 2FA, email, chat, or clocking hours via an app, I suppose they would have to choose between hiring that person or providing them with a device of their own if it was essential. I don't work with many people that make a fuss over these things, so I don't have a good idea of how it would be handled by mgmt or HR.
In which case, work phones should be provided. How do they manage with an employee who does not own a cell phone?
Yep, work phones should be provided. But they don't. Where it shows up is in your performance appraisal. Under things like "judgement and decisions" and "professional working relationship" and other such generic things. Like I was told very early on in my career by my 3rd level supervisor "it's voluntary on your part. Just like what I write in your performance report is voluntary on my part."
The boss probably had a relative/buddy they wanted to hire that needed a job. Seen that happen many times. Heck I have worked for clueless goofball directors that didn't know my name or job title after years at the company. Alot of these managers are only looking out for #1. .Themselves They don't care about the rank and file and just look a human below them as a statistic.
Not reality - otherwise they would have never hired them in the first place. Managers want to not deal with problems, they want work, not excuses.
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But thanks for the pointer.
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