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Yes, it's all verrrrrrrry complicated and apparently any explanation wouldn't be understood so why bother.
There's a specific scenario I'm dealing with that would take 2-3 hours to catch one person up on the history leading up to the decisions being made. That's one of a dozen situations going on. Taking those hours to explain in detail when the explanation isn't needed by the developer or analyst you'd explain it to is a non-productive use of time, more often than not.
It's very reasonable to tell the team that there's more going on behind the scenes than they are aware of, and that they need to trust the decision, however.
Yes, that was a fiction. But a representation of things that really do happen. Seen it happen multiple times. Seen long term employees escorted out under guard.
Sometimes reality does require layoffs. The key is how they are handled. And at times it seems management decides to be deliberately cruel when doing the layoff just to emphasize the point.
Not like this and not by blaming the workforce. Sorry, this is just a screenwriters' attempt at making a good story.
You say under guard, as if they have a knife in their back. You know, each day I walk in and out of the building there are guards. But I guess it sounds more dramatic to say "under guard". More drama about nothing.
No, that's a super villain character from a comic book where they are deliberately cruel. They have no points to emphasize, that's just you not understanding how business works. I spent years listening to employees complain like this thread with their conspiracy theories. Then I got promoted into management and saw what I suspected all along people trying to run a business. No one was sitting there rubbing their hands trying to figure out how to devise a scheme to be evil.
This is why some people walk around in constant fear because of myths like this. The evil company, evil manager, the evil business. Come on, this is just a story and not a very good one.
let's face it. It's human nature to deflect accountability. It's a character flaw. And just because you are in a senior position or a leader doesn't mean you are immune to these flaws. Some people like to blame - be it the intern or the CEO.
At the end of the day though - blame doesn't fix the issue. I always tell people - you can blame me for everything if that makes you feel better. However, until you figure out how to fix it, your problem is still going to be there.
Occasionally that does happen. More often than not, the worker only has a fraction of the full picture, and is making assumptions based on very, very limited information. There's never a magic bullets that makes everyone happy, there's always seven different ways to interpret a situation where success can be measures seven different ways. The worker typically doesn't have all the information, and as a result is making a very uninformed decision without realizing it.
Yes. When I started doing project management, I had to communicate with a much large group of people on a daily basis. It was amazing the crazy concepts some had why the information was being asked about for status and some viewed everything into some sort of power ploy by an unknown person. When what our goal was, was to be able to plan, schedule and deliver on schedule within budget. Cause if we don't do that, we don't make money, lose customers, and then go out of business.
Yes, it's all verrrrrrrry complicated and apparently any explanation wouldn't be understood so why bother.
Things are explained all the time, but some don't want to listen to what is being said. They believe everything in life is against them, to take advantage of them, to make them suffer. So those people, it is a waste of time trying to explain anything to them. They fail to understand simple business concepts such as profit, marketplace and demand for the company's products and services. And they make up their minds in these things without any data. Yes, you worked hard on your project, but the company couldn't make any money off of it, so your area is gone. It is easier to blame someone than accept the harsh reality of running a business. In a business, everything is at risk, and there are no guarantees.
There's a specific scenario I'm dealing with that would take 2-3 hours to catch one person up on the history leading up to the decisions being made. That's one of a dozen situations going on. Taking those hours to explain in detail when the explanation isn't needed by the developer or analyst you'd explain it to is a non-productive use of time, more often than not.
It's very reasonable to tell the team that there's more going on behind the scenes than they are aware of, and that they need to trust the decision, however.
And information discussed in a management meeting today doesn't mean that is an idea set in stone. Different things are explored all the time. For example, I was asked to consider taking part of our IT function offshore to save the company money. I looked into it, and for that type of work there wasn't really a cost savings and would have required we add more people to function as offshore liaisons. So the idea was dropped. But if that information had gotten out to the workforce about this report being done, they would have been in a panic over nothing. Business is always looking for ways to be more efficient. There are rarely any surprises to employees if they are paying attention to what is being said and looking at the marketplace for what they do.
Things are explained all the time, but some don't want to listen to what is being said. They believe everything in life is against them, to take advantage of them, to make them suffer. So those people, it is a waste of time trying to explain anything to them. They fail to understand simple business concepts such as profit, marketplace and demand for the company's products and services. And they make up their minds in these things without any data. Yes, you worked hard on your project, but the company couldn't make any money off of it, so your area is gone. It is easier to blame someone than accept the harsh reality of running a business. In a business, everything is at risk, and there are no guarantees.
Yes, there no guarantees and no absolutes. In some cases management does blame their employees unjustly. In other cases, the employees are at fault for not understanding.
Always assigning blame to the employees, that somehow it is always they that are at fault is not accurate or realistic. And always assigning blame to management is also not accurate.
It makes it seem that people who have to go to one extreme or the other in trying to protect management or workers as shining pillars of infallibility are pushing an agenda. That is not realistic and cannot stand up to honest scrutiny.
Not like this and not by blaming the workforce. Sorry, this is just a screenwriters' attempt at making a good story.
You say under guard, as if they have a knife in their back. You know, each day I walk in and out of the building there are guards. But I guess it sounds more dramatic to say "under guard". More drama about nothing.
No, that's a super villain character from a comic book where they are deliberately cruel. They have no points to emphasize, that's just you not understanding how business works. I spent years listening to employees complain like this thread with their conspiracy theories. Then I got promoted into management and saw what I suspected all along people trying to run a business. No one was sitting there rubbing their hands trying to figure out how to devise a scheme to be evil.
This is why some people walk around in constant fear because of myths like this. The evil company, evil manager, the evil business. Come on, this is just a story and not a very good one.
So because you haven't experienced it, it doesn't happen? I meant exactly what I said. Armed as in 9mm service weapon. Guard as in actual LEOs.
When coworkers complained about th he treatment, msbagenents response was "because they were laid off, they were a threat." Nevermind that humiliating people makes it more likely, not less.
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