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Old 09-16-2017, 07:15 PM
 
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This is one of the reasons I am opposed to electronic medical records. Almost anyone at a hospital can look them up not just the doctors and people DO gossip about them and share it.
Those electronic records also record who enters the electronic chart. People do get caught and fired for being in charts they have no business being in. (I'm a nurse who recently worked for a hospital and we were told this in a training.)
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Old 09-16-2017, 07:36 PM
 
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Those electronic records also record who enters the electronic chart. People do get caught and fired for being in charts they have no business being in. (I'm a nurse who recently worked for a hospital and we were told this in a training.)
Unless someone is manually cross checking thousands of people looking at records a day how would they know? Not to mention private practices where the doctor is the boss and there is little IT work or oversight. There is also the fact that there is no longer any "private" records and that your doctor or nurse can look up your records from your OBGYN or urologist or mental health information going back many years when they have no business doing so. There is also the fact that secretaries can look up your records using some excuse and be "authorized" and then gossip to anyone which I have seen first hand. Not to mention the fact that records are hacked and stolen all the time. I think it is much safer and more private to use paper records.
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Old 09-17-2017, 06:49 AM
 
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I don't understand a word of this post. *shrug*

Your boss shared your medical information to YOU? You're the stranger?

Or your boss emailed your medical information to someone else and CC'd you on the email? Huh?

Your employer is not allowed to access your medical records without your consent. And they can't hold it against you for saying no. This goes back to the 1980s.

Yeah I don't get this either. OP how did you otherwise find out your boss email your med condition to a stranger? Regardless you should talk to her on inappropriate sharing of your information.
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Old 09-17-2017, 07:40 AM
 
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Thanks for your analysis.
Incorrect as it is...It was worthy of reading.
Yes ,,this very instance happened and you are incorrect to think that the person returning was given a different position . He wasn't. Instead he got less physical duties and things remained as such .
Yes I am prone to seizures ..But oops! I told ppl on the internet ..And I haven't melted in horror from it. I have no need for FMLA. But again this is about human awareness.. be it medical conveyance on a need to know basis.
I sincerely appauld folks who regard privacy and delicate prognosis...I also commend the adult who is forthcoming when need be.

I'm sure you mean well in a general way to support privacy of medical concerns. Just not too keen on your way of conveyance.
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I really have no idea what you're saying but if you believe your company should fire you for your seizure disorder instead of making reasonable accommodations, I bet they'd be happy to accept your resignation.
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Old 09-17-2017, 09:33 AM
 
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Before you got rushing off to HR or a lawyer about your boss we need more information.

Please post what exactly transpired and how your boss knew about your condition.

Also-Your medical information is already out there for all to see. I found this out when my insurance agent told me about a medical condition I had (which I never told him or wrote on the application) after applying for life insurance.

These folks know nearly everything about your medical history:mib.com - Home

.....and they have been in business since 1902.
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Old 09-17-2017, 09:49 AM
 
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Unless someone is manually cross checking thousands of people looking at records a day how would they know? Not to mention private practices where the doctor is the boss and there is little IT work or oversight. There is also the fact that there is no longer any "private" records and that your doctor or nurse can look up your records from your OBGYN or urologist or mental health information going back many years when they have no business doing so. There is also the fact that secretaries can look up your records using some excuse and be "authorized" and then gossip to anyone which I have seen first hand. Not to mention the fact that records are hacked and stolen all the time. I think it is much safer and more private to use paper records.
Of course this is all possible but it is illegal with severe penalties... the part about it being illegal is the difference between snooping and a crime.

As mentioned... I personally know staff let go for mishandling medical information at my Hospital and as mentioned... there was no malice or even gossip involved in the latest... simply a clerk taking a selfie of her at work and posting to Facebook and the selfie had patient information up on the monitor...
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Old 09-17-2017, 11:33 AM
 
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Of course this is all possible but it is illegal with severe penalties... the part about it being illegal is the difference between snooping and a crime.

As mentioned... I personally know staff let go for mishandling medical information at my Hospital and as mentioned... there was no malice or even gossip involved in the latest... simply a clerk taking a selfie of her at work and posting to Facebook and the selfie had patient information up on the monitor...
Theres nothing illegal about it as far as I know. It is a violation of policy. The person you know who was fired, was fired due to it being on facebook in the public view, which makes the hospital look bad. If she snooped on some random non-coworker and didn't take a picture I doubt they would know or even care.
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Old 09-17-2017, 12:43 PM
 
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Unless someone is manually cross checking thousands of people looking at records a day how would they know? Not to mention private practices where the doctor is the boss and there is little IT work or oversight. There is also the fact that there is no longer any "private" records and that your doctor or nurse can look up your records from your OBGYN or urologist or mental health information going back many years when they have no business doing so. There is also the fact that secretaries can look up your records using some excuse and be "authorized" and then gossip to anyone which I have seen first hand. Not to mention the fact that records are hacked and stolen all the time. I think it is much safer and more private to use paper records.
My reply was in direct response to your post...

Of course people can and will do things like snoop and gossip... my point is this is illegal with statutory penalties including job loss...

The person I referenced was blindsided... never realize what she had done and when it was explained accepted it... she had no malice, no malicious intent and even Admin said it was on all accounts innocent... simply posting a smiling selfie at her desk on her 15 minute mandated break time... so it was not even done on the clock... but the facts showed and open monitor in the background... and this was enough... and she had very good reviews and was well liked... her first job was over...

Not many secretaries in a hospital setting...

As many have mentioned... using your corp issued to log on leaves an electronic trail... in my facility, every key stroke is logged and cyber protocol monitors all e-mail...

In fact, if I want to print something from my computer to the desktop printer within arms reach the print command travels more than a 100 miles and through corp IT and then back.

I don't doubt anything is possible and probable... only there is a price to pay for non-compliance.
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Old 09-17-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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My reply was in direct response to your post...

Of course people can and will do things like snoop and gossip... my point is this is illegal with statutory penalties including job loss...

The person I referenced was blindsided... never realize what she had done and when it was explained accepted it... she had no malice, no malicious intent and even Admin said it was on all accounts innocent... simply posting a smiling selfie at her desk on her 15 minute mandated break time... so it was not even done on the clock... but the facts showed and open monitor in the background... and this was enough... and she had very good reviews and was well liked... her first job was over...

Not many secretaries in a hospital setting...

As many have mentioned... using your corp issued to log on leaves an electronic trail... in my facility, every key stroke is logged and cyber protocol monitors all e-mail...

In fact, if I want to print something from my computer to the desktop printer within arms reach the print command travels more than a 100 miles and through corp IT and then back.

I don't doubt anything is possible and probable... only there is a price to pay for non-compliance.
Most larger hospitals have many out patient clinics, and this is where I know some secretaries were gossiping. Every doctor has their own secretary and apparently the people who answer the phones and shedule appointments are "authorized" to view patent medical records. And of course the clinic and hospital records are connected and they can view everything going back years to any specialist you see who is affiliated with their hospital, or any hospital records at all, even things that should be private.
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Old 09-17-2017, 01:52 PM
 
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Maybe it is the illusion of privacy?

Secrets are seldom secret so all that can be done is set in place penalties.

A few years back a very famous local personality was a patient and did TV interviews with the Doctor about the new revolutionary surgery which proved successful... this was not a one time local interview as in went nationwide...

I learned from the watching the TV interview than from my employment... in fact I did not know the person was ever a patient prior to seeing the interview.

It did cause some issues because if you learn about a person's medical history outside of your employment or from a national media interview... then what?
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