The over-educated, underemployed Starbucks Barista - truth or fiction? (percentage, owner, paid)
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1. None of my BK experiences are useful in accounting either. But it did lead me to the job that lead me to low end accounting jobs.
2. And that new job can be used to get something better...
That makes no sense, there is zero correlation between professional accounting and McJobs. It’s like your trying to play it up but those jobs literally have zero value for over qualified people or even people who aspire to a real profession.
But if something pays 20x a mcjob you dont have to do it for very long before you can punch out if you do it right. When you are working for daily food and rent and thats it there is no out or light at the end ...
Most everyone I know started with a min wage job. As a hiring manager I'd rather see some sort of work history be it anything than hiring someone with a masters that has never worked before. A degree means nothing if you haven't proven you can work with other people. I've met a lot of book smart people I would never hire to work where I do.
Most everyone I know started with a min wage job. As a hiring manager I'd rather see some sort of work history be it anything than hiring someone with a masters that has never worked before. A degree means nothing if you haven't proven you can work with other people. I've met a lot of book smart people I would never hire to work where I do.
You have internships, conferences, professional volunteer work. Lots of things that can be done that’s not a mcjob. If you don’t like that then I simply wouldn’t work for you.
That makes no sense, there is zero correlation between professional accounting and McJobs. It’s like your trying to play it up but those jobs literally have zero value for over qualified people or even people who aspire to a real profession.
they're good building block types of jobs. lots of lessons to be learned.
all else equal, a kid with 1 year of mcdonalds work experience going to their first professional job is far ahead of a kid that never worked, attempting to enter the workforce as a starting professional accountant
they're good building block types of jobs. lots of lessons to be learned.
all else equal, a kid with 1 year of mcdonalds work experience going to their first professional job is far ahead of a kid that never worked, attempting to enter the workforce as a starting professional accountant
All other things are never equal though, a full one day intensive trade show or conference would be more relevant than a year at McDonald’s.
A hiring manager that valued a year at McDonald’s over internships, conferences, etc is going to find himself in the unemployment line or out of business.
If you hire a bunch of petty functionaries because “gosh darn it everyone’s got to pay their dues” I will make it my mission to put you out of business and you can learn the hard way that having a year at a mcjob is no correlation to professional competence in an unrelated field.
All other things are never equal though, a full one day intensive trade show or conference would be more relevant than a year at McDonald’s.
A hiring manager that valued a year at McDonald’s over internships, conferences, etc is going to find himself in the unemployment line or out of business.
If you hire a bunch of petty functionaries because “gosh darn it everyone’s got to pay their dues” I will make it my mission to put you out of business and you can learn the hard way that having a year at a mcjob is no correlation to professional competence in an unrelated field.
I'm not a big fan of MC jobs but having a job alone shows that you're competent and trainable to work at a better position.
I'm not a big fan of MC jobs but having a job alone shows that you're competent and trainable to work at a better position.
We will have to agree to disagree. Maybe if the job in question required a few weeks of training to do but things like nuclear engineers, electrical engineers, chemical engineers, etc. A mcjob does not translate at all, if you can get a degree in engineering you have already proven you can get work done, get to class on time, etc.
Unless certain engineering programs are getting really lax, in which case the employer just needs to keep themselves apprised of which schools are crap. But between the degree, professional testing and licensing, continuing education, conferences, trade shows ... A McJob adds zero value at that stage of the game.
All other things are never equal though, a full one day intensive trade show or conference would be more relevant than a year at McDonald’s.
A hiring manager that valued a year at McDonald’s over internships, conferences, etc is going to find himself in the unemployment line or out of business.
If you hire a bunch of petty functionaries because “gosh darn it everyone’s got to pay their dues” I will make it my mission to put you out of business and you can learn the hard way that having a year at a mcjob is no correlation to professional competence in an unrelated field.
Obviously an internship is better. That wasn't the comparison though. If there was someone with a year of big firm internship experience with similar credentials as someone working mcdonalds for a year, they'd be the more attractive hire. Similarly, someone working mcdonalds is a more attractive hire than someone with zero experience.
I've seen kids come out of college with high GPA that had zero idea how to function in a work environment, which is very different from home or school. In addition to adjusting to the professional level work, they also need to cope and figure out how to work within a business organization. Not that hard to understand why even unrelated work experience is better than nothing.
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