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Old 09-21-2010, 12:04 AM
 
Location: West Coast USA
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Oh! Just found this. This may be a great opportunity to ask . . . .

I cannot fast -- physical problems. I must have both water and food. Yom Kippur never seems quite right, then. I feel cheated. I miss out.

Obviously, we all know that if one cannot fast, then they can't, and concessions are made for them. But what do your shuls say with regard to those who cannot fast, who feel as I do?
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Old 09-21-2010, 05:32 AM
 
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Oh! Just found this. This may be a great opportunity to ask . . . .

I cannot fast -- physical problems. I must have both water and food. Yom Kippur never seems quite right, then. I feel cheated. I miss out.

Obviously, we all know that if one cannot fast, then they can't, and concessions are made for them. But what do your shuls say with regard to those who cannot fast, who feel as I do?
You are not supposed to put yourself at risk in order to fast. I fast but I cannot go without water because I take medications that require water and staying hydrated. So I do not eat and I drink the minimum amount of water I can to get by. There are people who fast and those who don't in my community. Nothing is said and we always say don't fast if it will be a risk.
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Old 09-21-2010, 05:50 AM
 
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Thank you, Jazzy, but I erred. I knew that, unfortunately, after the fact. I did only bread and water, but toward the end of the day, I realized that I had eaten too much bread. Next time, I will be more careful -- thinking about how.

I realized after asking my question here that everyone is different. (I am fairly new to not being able to fast, except not new to taking water.) I think that next time, I will just keep myself outside of the range of hunger -- which may mean eating a little bit of bread all throughout the day. But that so defeats the purpose, it seems!
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Old 09-21-2010, 06:31 AM
 
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Thank you, Jazzy, but I erred. I knew that, unfortunately, after the fact. I did only bread and water, but toward the end of the day, I realized that I had eaten too much bread. Next time, I will be more careful -- thinking about how.

I realized after asking my question here that everyone is different. (I am fairly new to not being able to fast, except not new to taking water.) I think that next time, I will just keep myself outside of the range of hunger -- which may mean eating a little bit of bread all throughout the day. But that so defeats the purpose, it seems!
Its the intent and where your heart is. We atone by asking forgiveness of others and of G-d. In my community there are people who choose not to fast and others who fast. I really believe that what we do is between us and G-d and G-d knows our hearts.
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Old 09-21-2010, 08:41 AM
 
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I realized after asking my question here that everyone is different. (I am fairly new to not being able to fast, except not new to taking water.) I think that next time, I will just keep myself outside of the range of hunger -- which may mean eating a little bit of bread all throughout the day. But that so defeats the purpose, it seems!
If you can't fast for medical reasons, then that's the end of the debate. I doubt you'd find a rabbi anywhere who would tell you otherwise. Also, once a fast is broken, it's broken; you shouldn't limit what you eat as a way of trying to stay as close to fasting as possible (because there's no such thing!)
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:45 AM
 
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Its the intent and where your heart is. We atone by asking forgiveness of others and of G-d. In my community there are people who choose not to fast and others who fast. I really believe that what we do is between us and G-d and G-d knows our hearts.
Yeah, Jazzy. The heart. But I admit that I feel like I am so disobedient to Him when I don't do what He says. Maybe that's just a Me Me problem. Perhaps i need to just get over the MEs.

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If you can't fast for medical reasons, then that's the end of the debate. I doubt you'd find a rabbi anywhere who would tell you otherwise. Also, once a fast is broken, it's broken; you shouldn't limit what you eat as a way of trying to stay as close to fasting as possible (because there's no such thing!)
End of my debate with G-d who made me. Yeah, I guess so.

I can't say, however, that he made me this way. It was my years of poor choices that brought on the diabetes.
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