Should businesses be allowed to discriminate? (employment, lawyer, boycott, companies)
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Some argue businesses shouldn't be allowed to fire gay and lesbian employees based on their sexual orientation.
Some argue businesses should be allowed to discriminate because they are private businesses.
There have been stories about women not being hired when they were pregnant....or stories of women being passed up for jobs because employers felt they would get pregnant and then take off for months at a time and leave it to others to pick up the slack or it forces the company to hire a temp.
I'm all for companies having a nondiscrimination policy...provided it isn't something that was forced upon them by the government.
If the shareholders of the company want a nondiscrimination policy or the employees want one that protects all....why not?
Those who don't agree with the companies policy can take their business elsewhere.
No. Absolutely not. It is sad that discrimination against women is still alive and rampant. I think it is horrible to do this to a woman because she is pregnant or to someone because he or she is gay.
Not fair, not right. Reproduction is natural thing. Without it, we would not exist. If women had to worry about losing their jobs because they are carrying on, they won't get pregnant. Not worth losing your job over. Even then why do business get to discriminate against this?
I have seen pregnant women get fired. They claim they just had to let some people go....
Pregnancy is hard enough for the woman but for her to go through MORE already is horrible.
Some argue businesses shouldn't be allowed to fire gay and lesbian employees based on their sexual orientation.
Some argue businesses should be allowed to discriminate because they are private businesses.
There have been stories about women not being hired when they were pregnant....or stories of women being passed up for jobs because employers felt they would get pregnant and then take off for months at a time and leave it to others to pick up the slack or it forces the company to hire a temp.
I'm all for companies having a nondiscrimination policy...provided it isn't something that was forced upon them by the government.
If the shareholders of the company want a nondiscrimination policy or the employees want one that protects all....why not?
Those who don't agree with the companies policy can take their business elsewhere.
I guess the better question would have been, should businesses be told by the government that they are not allowed to discriminate?
The video seems to suggest that because of this bill that made it a "crime" to discriminate against pregnant women has caused more discrimination by pregnant women or women in general because companies are scared of litigation by women who may feel they were discriminated against.
Sure why not, If consumers can choose to shop only at stores owned by certain race, ethnicities, or genders (under the guise of "supporting" that specific race, ethnicity, or gender), why can't a business owner choose who to hire based on race, ethnicity, or gender. Seems very hypocritical to me in the 21st century when we have become a more progressive nation. Times have changed and we need to update the workplace discrimination laws. Business owners should have the freedom to decide who they want to hire based on any reason.
Sure why not, If consumers can choose to shop only at stores owned by certain race, ethnicities, or genders (under the guise of "supporting" that specific race, ethnicity, or gender), why can't a business owner choose who to hire based on race, ethnicity, or gender. Seems very hypocritical to me in the 21st century when we have become a more progressive nation. Times have changed and we need to update the workplace discrimination laws. Business owners should have the freedom to decide who they want to hire based on any reason.
I agree. I run a small consulting company, and from time to time I need to hire a few people for a particular project. I absolutely need those people to be there for my client. If they cannot be there as expected, then they are of no use to me and they are gone. I don't care if it is man, woman, black, white, gay, straight, Christian, or atheist. When I hire someone I have an absolute minimum expectation of them, and if they cannot live up to that expectation, they are history.
I guess the better question would have been, should businesses be told by the government that they are not allowed to discriminate?
The problem with that is, there are plenty of businesses that will most certainly discriminate in some way or other...unless the government prohibits it.
Private owned businesses should have the right to discriminate, the government emphatically not under any circumstances. People should be free to associate with who they want on property they own. Since business are considered as individuals in the court system, the rights of individuals should be granted to them.
This is really an issue about whether you support private property rights or disagree with them. There is no middle ground. Support, Yes, or no! Any form of government involvement means you don't believe that what's mine is mine and what's yours is yours.
Those who think that that 'we the people' which is the >50% majority, have the right to tell by use of government jack boot thugs with guns what the individual may do with his private ownership, not only do not support minority rights, but ipso facto are supporters of collectivism, ergo communism/socialism.
Using common sense, what would possess anyone to want to work for a boss who has a dislike for you as an employee, who regardless of legislation, will consciously hinder the employee from advancing within the business, when that employee could be working at another business that would be more respectful. Logic would dictate otherwise, and the benefit of open discrimination at the workplace makes it easier for anyone affected by such discrimination to say forget this and proclaim
"Not only am I not going to work here, but now knowing what that employer really thinks about me I can encourage my friends and family to boycott this business. Wow, had the government interfered and passed anti-discrimination legislation, I would never know if i was paranoid or if my gut feeling is right that people are talking behind my back, and resenting me by possibly sabotaging and hindering advancement."
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hell yeah they should be able to. the company is not the property of the employee, nor a lawyer, nor the state. the owner of the company should make ALL the decisions for his/her business.
No businesses should not be able to discriminate. This also means, however, that affirmative action should be banned.
Employment decisions should be as color, gender, and sexual orientation-blind as possible. Ideally, 100% blind.
Yes the law needs to step in where necessary.
And of course women should not be able to be fired for being pregnant. A woman can file a lawsuit over it and this right should continue. Perhaps other penalties should be explored as well.
Last edited by afoigrokerkok; 05-19-2009 at 08:07 PM..
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