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View Poll Results: Is a riot the language of the unheard?
No - that inspires riots 13 23.21%
Yes - riots are justified wehn people get angry 14 25.00%
MLK was a terrorist 3 5.36%
MLK was just as bad as Trump 4 7.14%
Trump is a terrorist 22 39.29%
Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-13-2021, 08:17 AM
 
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No one has been disenfranchised.
Tell that to the people who are labeled as "poor white trash". A lot worse too. It's done all the time with impunity. It's never ok to attack other Americans based on the color of their skin or their socioeconomic status.
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Old 01-13-2021, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Tell that to the people who are labeled as "poor white trash". A lot worse too. It's done all the time with impunity. It's never ok to attack other Americans based on the color of their skin or their socioeconomic status.
Yet it continually happens by the "poor white trash" to anyone who is poor and not white. The maybe disenfranchised but they don't mind others also being disenfranchised too...
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Old 01-13-2021, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Tell that to the people who are labeled as "poor white trash". A lot worse too. It's done all the time with impunity. It's never ok to attack other Americans based on the color of their skin or their socioeconomic status.
You need to use a different word. Disenfranchised refers to the right to vote or other rights and privileges. How have "poor white trash" - to use your phrase - been restricted in their right to vote? What rights have they lost?
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Old 01-13-2021, 08:50 AM
 
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You need to use a different word. Disenfranchised refers to the right to vote or other rights and privileges. How have "poor white trash" - to use your phrase - been restricted in their right to vote? What rights have they lost?
I wasn't talking about just the "right" to vote. It has a wider meaning.

What does it mean to feel disenfranchised?
Enfranchise means to give someone the right to vote. Disenfranchise means to take it away. ... Being disenfranchised can make you feel like you don't belong or that you have no power.


The bolded is the context I was referring to. Like it or not, agree or not, people truly feel that way.
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Old 01-13-2021, 12:12 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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...Being disenfranchised can make you feel like you don't belong or that you have no power.
What power do you think you deserve?
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Old 01-13-2021, 12:15 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Democrats believe that riots are only appropriate for left-wing causes.
Oh, get off it and quit posting outright lies. No Dem believes that riots are appropriate.
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Old 01-13-2021, 12:17 PM
 
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Well let's compare the impetus for both riots being compared:

George Floyd was detained by police after trying to use a counterfeit bill. He was taken to the ground and had a knee put into his back, a technique for arrest that is no longer suggested best practice. Floyd died due to this.

Stop the Steal was an allegation of voter fraud. No voter fraud has been found. In court the various lawyers used often said they didn't find voter fraud. The claims never stopped. There was also talk that Pence could overturn the votes with no proof.

So of the two, which was more justified?
I don't think rioting in either case was a good idea. More harm than good. However, comparing sedition to riots over police brutality isn't smart. Of course, we have to consider the same mentality: "Shoot now, ask questions later".
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Old 01-13-2021, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Being disenfranchised can make you feel like you don't belong or that you have no power.
You gotta do better than "don't belong" -- boo hoo, little snowflakes.

So back to what's tangible: What power do U.S. citizens have in participating in government other than the right to vote, freedom of assembly, and abilty to petition the government? Has the federal government taken away any of those powers?

What powers do people think have been taken away from them?
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Old 01-13-2021, 12:44 PM
 
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What power do you think you deserve?
In regard to the rural folks, they deserve to have the power to protect their way of life and their culture without discrimination. They should not be constantly belittled and in many cases have language directed at them that dehumanizes them. They really feel powerless as they are being attacked for who they are.

They cannot help they were born in geographically isolated areas of the country any more than those that were born in an inner city with completely different opportunities, experiences, etc.

There is a lot of frustration coming from this group. PC speech and human decency toward others isn't applied toward them. Constant assumptions that you are an uneducated, gun toting racist (and worse) takes it's toll. Redneck is the least of the derogatory words used. The "white trash", "trailer park", etc. type comments have become like the N word to them. When used it's hurled at them with hate and derision too.
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Old 01-13-2021, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I don't think rioting in either case was a good idea. More harm than good. However, comparing sedition to riots over police brutality isn't smart. Of course, we have to consider the same mentality: "Shoot now, ask questions later".
I agree. I merely understood why the socio-politcal reasons why cities saw riots. I didn't condone them. Seditious acts are much worse and I can't wrap my head around the whys and how's people can justify it.
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