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I don't see that addressing silencers is wide sweeping and claims that ammunition are just an accessory are absurd. They can live without silencers, this is an argument about minutia. Go make your case that silencers are critical to the second amendment, this is where gun rights advocates look foolish and petty.
there is no such thing as a silencer..nothing silences the sound of a round going off...
they are called suppressors, because the suppress the sound, not silence it
TN legalized them a couple of years ago and LA did back in the fall. I still carry my Kershaw because it is easy and safer to open it one handed. I don't have to put down what I'm opening.
I carry a double action, out the front knife everyday too, mine is a smaller one, blade is only 3" long, but the comments I get when I use it are always good for a laugh, "Arent those illegal""only criminals carry switchblades". LOL
Im not sure when automatic knives came to be associated with criminals, maybe some of the old Stephen King movies, when juvenile delinquents back in the 1950s would carry a switchblade? !
Do you know how suppressors work? Do you understand how much they lower sound pressure levels in db?
A top shelf suppressor will lower the output noise of a gunshot about 25-30 db on average. Virtually all firearms in existence make somewhere between 150-165db sound pressure. 85 db is the threshold for potential hearing loss, and 120 db is the threshold for pain (also the level of an average siren). So a typical suppressor lowers the db output right about to the threshold of pain, or a siren. Real quick, are sirens so whisper quiet that you can have one blaring in one classroom and the next classroom over, they have no idea that siren is going off?
Suppressors do not make firearms silent. They lower the output sound level by 25-30db, and combined with hearing protection, can protect firearms operators and anyone within the vicinity of that firearm's operation from permanent hearing loss.
The whisper quiet thing is an invention of movies and is pure fiction. Put a suppressor on my 9mm Beretta and it is only slightly quieter than a jet engine at take off. When I add two layers of hearing protection (which I always do), now operating my firearm, to my ears, is about as loud as being in a decently populated restaurant. If I have to operate that firearm in a tactical situation where I need max environmental hearing capability, but don't want my ears to bleed and my eardrums burst from firing a shot, then a suppressor lowers the chances of that happening. It will still be loud, but maybe not permanent damage and ears bleeding loud.
They are safety devices designed to protect hearing. The fact that, with the tax stamp and ATF approval plus the outrageous cost, they cost more than the weapons they are attached to is a testament to the stupidity and colossal ignorance of politicians and their voters.
Nothing suppresses sound from a gun to put it in a safe range, not sure what the point is of a suppressor that reduces sound from 160 dBA by 30 dB since the result is still damage to hearing. Those are sound levels right at the rifle and drop off exponentially with distance, although still noticeable a few thousand feet an attenuation of 30 dB is very significant over distances.
Nothing suppresses sound from a gun to put it in a safe range, not sure what the point is of a suppressor that reduces sound from 160 dBA by 30 dB since the result is still damage to hearing. Those are sound levels right at the rifle and drop off exponentially with distance, although still noticeable a few thousand feet an attenuation of 30 dB is very significant over distances.
But you can use foam plugs to make up the difference. Ear plugs don't work without a can. Especially anything with a brake on it.
The boogeyman that Negotiates Rights Away (NRA) helped with getting them regulated.
Oh hell yeah. Everyone thinks my crusader is chambered in something exotic. That R2 brake is intense if you are to the left or right of it.
The brake on my 338 lapua?
You'll feel it at an outdoor range from up to 8 bays in each direction. You need to double up with ear protection when that bastard barks.
.50 Armalite with tank brake. You have to tell everyone (if they haven't already seen it) before you torch it because it will blast everything off tables for 30 feet. So loud.
Nothing suppresses sound from a gun to put it in a safe range, not sure what the point is of a suppressor that reduces sound from 160 dBA by 30 dB since the result is still damage to hearing.
In conjunction with hearing protection, it is provides the least threat of hearing loss or injury. That's the point. Spend a day at the range, even with double hearing protection, and your ears know where you spent the day. Suppressors are simply added hearing protection, as well as a minor recoil dampener.
Basically, they are a device for ADDITIONAL SAFETY when operating a firearm.
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Those are sound levels right at the rifle and drop off exponentially with distance, although still noticeable a few thousand feet an attenuation of 30 dB is very significant over distances.
Yet another bonus of the suppressor. The sound output over distance is much less, thus reducing noise pollution and potential hearing damage in the immediate ad near-surrounding environment.
Again, more safety.
Making suppressors so tightly controlled is exactly equivalent to making earplugs and noise cancelling headphones subject to $200 tax stamps and 9 month waiting periods...all because you seek to protect your hearing and that of others?
In conjunction with hearing protection, it is provides the least threat of hearing loss or injury. That's the point. Spend a day at the range, even with double hearing protection, and your ears know where you spent the day. Suppressors are simply added hearing protection, as well as a minor recoil dampener.
Basically, they are a device for ADDITIONAL SAFETY when operating a firearm.
Yet another bonus of the suppressor. The sound output over distance is much less, thus reducing noise pollution and potential hearing damage in the immediate ad near-surrounding environment.
Again, more safety.
Making suppressors so tightly controlled is exactly equivalent to making earplugs and noise cancelling headphones subject to $200 tax stamps and 9 month waiting periods...all because you seek to protect your hearing and that of others?
The Left has their mind made up and the truth does not matter.
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