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Old 04-22-2019, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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New census data shows Maricopa County grew faster than any other county in the nation for the second year in a row.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/mone...th/3509155002/

Phoenix and Tucson may still merge by 2040.

A 2005 prediction for the cities with downtowns separated by 120 miles didn't seem far fetched when proclaimed by growth experts during the housing boom.

But when the bust started in 2007 and stretched to 2011, such a prediction seemed unlikely.

Now, metro Phoenix is on another growth streak.

New census data shows Maricopa County grew faster than any other county in the nation for the second year in a row.

Population projections for metro Phoenix could mean it will join with Tucson somewhere in Pinal County in about two decades, if the numbers are right and the Valley's growth engine doesn't stall again.

For more stories that matter, subscribe to azcentral.com.

'Super-sized' Arizona Sun Corridor
Urban researchers began identifying what they believed would be "super-sized" metro areas or megapolitans 15 years ago when growth was rampant in the Valley and several other parts of the country.

The forecast for Arizona was for a swath nicknamed the Arizona Sun Corridor from Prescott in the north all the way south to Sierra Vista and the Mexico border to emerge with more than 10 million residents by 2040.
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Old 04-22-2019, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Only problem with that prediction would be the Gila River Indian Reservation. Kind of their land...ya know?
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Old 04-22-2019, 04:43 PM
 
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Only problem with that prediction would be the Gila River Indian Reservation. Kind of their land...ya know?
Plus it assumes old development patterns will prevail. Suburban sprawl is less and less in style all the time.
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Old 04-22-2019, 04:49 PM
 
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Plus it assumes old development patterns will prevail. Suburban sprawl is less and less in style all the time.
Not so fast!
"Forecasting the continued rapid growth of the metropolitan area in the coming decades, a study published Thursday by researchers at Syracuse University has found that the majority of Earth’s landmass will be Phoenix suburbs by 2050." https://www.theonion.com/new-study-f...eni-1819579315
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Old 04-22-2019, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Centennial, CO
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New census data shows Maricopa County grew faster than any other county in the nation for the second year in a row.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/mone...th/3509155002/

Phoenix and Tucson may still merge by 2040.

A 2005 prediction for the cities with downtowns separated by 120 miles didn't seem far fetched when proclaimed by growth experts during the housing boom.

But when the bust started in 2007 and stretched to 2011, such a prediction seemed unlikely.

Now, metro Phoenix is on another growth streak.

New census data shows Maricopa County grew faster than any other county in the nation for the second year in a row.

Population projections for metro Phoenix could mean it will join with Tucson somewhere in Pinal County in about two decades, if the numbers are right and the Valley's growth engine doesn't stall again.

For more stories that matter, subscribe to azcentral.com.

'Super-sized' Arizona Sun Corridor
Urban researchers began identifying what they believed would be "super-sized" metro areas or megapolitans 15 years ago when growth was rampant in the Valley and several other parts of the country.

The forecast for Arizona was for a swath nicknamed the Arizona Sun Corridor from Prescott in the north all the way south to Sierra Vista and the Mexico border to emerge with more than 10 million residents by 2040.
No way Phoenix and Tucson merge anytime in the next 50 years at a minimum. For one, as somebody mentioned, there is a reservation in the way. #2, there are plenty of ways for the metro to grow out to gain population, the West Valley/303 corridor/I-11 corridor being the most obvious and path of least resistance. Finally, even at the growth patterns the market experienced in the 2005-2006 timeframe, even if there was somehow a desire to sprawl that direction, it would take far more than a couple decades for 100 miles of new development to occur, and that's even IF there was a way to deliver water and develop other infrastructure that would be needed to handle that much growth.
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Old 04-22-2019, 05:36 PM
 
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Funny how people talk about it as if it's necessarily a good thing.

I'm thinking more sprawl, more traffic, more pollution, etc..
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Old 04-22-2019, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Funny how people talk about it as if it's necessarily a good thing.

I'm thinking more sprawl, more traffic, more pollution, etc..
Yep, many negatives for sure but it is an indication that people want to live here despite the negatives.
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Old 04-22-2019, 05:55 PM
 
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No way Phoenix and Tucson merge anytime in the next 50 years at a minimum. For one, as somebody mentioned, there is a reservation in the way. #2, there are plenty of ways for the metro to grow out to gain population, the West Valley/303 corridor/I-11 corridor being the most obvious and path of least resistance. Finally, even at the growth patterns the market experienced in the 2005-2006 timeframe, even if there was somehow a desire to sprawl that direction, it would take far more than a couple decades for 100 miles of new development to occur, and that's even IF there was a way to deliver water and develop other infrastructure that would be needed to handle that much growth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMRrNY0pxfM
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ area
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Plus it assumes old development patterns will prevail. Suburban sprawl is less and less in style all the time.
Tell that to the couple thousand homes in Asante that went up in the last few years, or the thousands build it North Copper Canyon, Desert Oasis, Rancho Cabrillo, Coldwater Ranch, Vistancia, Tierra Del Rio, Westwing, Sonoran Mountain Ranch, north side of Anthem, Verde River, that area north of Carefree HWY and Pima, etc in the last year or two with tens of thousands more on the way in all of those areas and more. I could go on all day as no one is shying away from even the farthest flung areas, probably because transportation options are so good right now.

San Tan seems to be the outer limit right now for the SE valley; still some of the best bang for the buck in the valley because they haven't seen the growth the rest of the metro has. Once transportation hits that area you can expect to see it begin booming again like Waddell has begun doing again.
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Old 04-23-2019, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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We need to think bigger. Phoenix and LA will merge! There is nothing in the way to stop it.
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