Census data shows Maricopa Cty number 1 for growth in USA (Phoenix: house, construction)

[ShampooBanana]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

It's due west of Chandler, and Tempe is to it's Northeast. Ahwatukee is entirely within Phoenix city limits currently, but is cut off from the rest of the city by the South Mountains with only I-10 and 48th St connecting it to the main part of the city currently, it's more directly linked to Chandler via Ray Rd and Chandler Blvd

Tempe extends all the way to halfway between Warner and Ray Roads along the I-10 corridor, so the northern part of Ahwatukee is directly west of Tempe and connects to it (and Guadalupe) via Guadalupe Rd, Elliott Rd, and Warner Roads.

Also, yes currently Ahwatukee is connected to Phoenix right now just by 48th St, though soon it will also be connected to Laveen (also technically part of Phoenix) via the new 202 South Mountain Loop which will be completed the end of the year.

Also little known fact, but Tempe and Chandler both had the opportunity to incorporate Ahwatukee into their boundaries back in the beginning when Ahwatukee Foothills was first proposed and built in the late 70s. They declined. They didn't want to be burdened by the additional infrastructure costs as it was fairly remote to where most of their developed areas were at the time...

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by ShampooBanana

Also little known fact, but Tempe and Chandler both had the opportunity to incorporate Ahwatukee into their boundaries back in the beginning when Ahwatukee Foothills was first proposed and built in the late 70s. They declined. They didn't want to be burdened by the additional infrastructure costs as it was fairly remote to where most of their developed areas were at the time...

Very true, but doesn't it seem odd that Phoenix ended up annexing Ahwatukee when it seems so far removed from the city itself? It really has more in common with Chandler and south Tempe than Phoenix. But that was back in the day when Phoenix was annexation happy, and the end result was overkill since the city limits now incorporate over 500 square miles (larger land mass than L.A. or NYC). Ahwatukee should have self incorporated. It would have been perfectly fine as a city of its own.

[timothyaw]

Two of the cities in the county are the fastest growing in the nation. I guess it's good and bad news. It shows a strong economy (just one aspect) is bringing more people in, but that means more traffic, pollution etc.


https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...-s/1204621001/

[LS Jaun]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

Don’t forget Mesa. It’s trashy until you but the rail line then it’s significantly nicer

My brother lives off the light rail in Mesa, in a high homeless area. The light rail has only exacerbated the problem, with little hobo pads being set up all over his neighborhood.

[Jnvlv247]

Originally Posted by LS Jaun

My brother lives off the light rail in Mesa, in a high homeless area. The light rail has only exacerbated the problem, with little hobo pads being set up all over his neighborhood.

There's a reason Scottsale said no to it

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by Jnvlv247

There's a reason Scottsale said no to it

I'm guessing you're a light rail opponent?😑

[Enean]

Originally Posted by DougStark

Maricopa County may be tops in numerical growth, but don't forget: Other metros have several counties making up the CSA. For example, DFW: I think DFW is at the top of the growth list, but because the metro has several counties, it's not at #1.

BTW, I have an old friend visiting me from Wisconsin. He ponders, "what would you do down here if there was a terrorist attack on the electrical grid during the summer? You'd all die!!" And, "Aren't you worried about running out of water?" His comments are funny and naive to me, but they show me how some people who live elsewhere think about our area.

Google it....here is but one article explaining your problem. Nothing naive about your friend.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...-survive-water

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by Enean

Google it....here is but one article explaining your problem. Nothing naive about your friend.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...-survive-water

Yawn, we use less water than we are allotted every year, and our usage has continued to go down despite population increases, and that's due to farmers selling to developer's. Farming uses much more water than urbanized land per acre

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by Enean

Google it....here is but one article explaining your problem. Nothing naive about your friend.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...-survive-water

Garbage article. There’s truth to what you post but the writer uses certain adjectives to convey a point that is inaccurate. The truth is, yes, there is a structural deficit on the Colorado River and yes, CAP is the junior rights holder. Shortage does not mean we go from all to nothing.

Phoenix does not draw “most” of its water from CAP. It draws about 1/3 of its supply some of which is unused and banked underground.

The “small” rivers to the east (aka the Salt-Verde System) is also responsible for 1/3 and at one time was the only surface supply to a once more thirsty area thanks to agriculture and are currently so full that they’ve been releasing overflow from the reservoirs into the city.

How is Phoenix less sustainable than Vegas or New Orleans? One is literally below sea level and seafront and the other only has the Colorado River and groundwater.

It’s lazy sensationalism for people who want to read what they want to hear.

[Enean]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

Garbage article. There’s truth to what you post but the writer uses certain adjectives to convey a point that is inaccurate. The truth is, yes, there is a structural deficit on the Colorado River and yes, CAP is the junior rights holder. Shortage does not mean we go from all to nothing.

Phoenix does not draw “most” of its water from CAP. It draws about 1/3 of its supply some of which is unused and banked underground.

The “small” rivers to the east (aka the Salt-Verde System) is also responsible for 1/3 and at one time was the only surface supply to a once more thirsty area thanks to agriculture and are currently so full that they’ve been releasing overflow from the reservoirs into the city.

How is Phoenix less sustainable than Vegas or New Orleans? One is literally below sea level and seafront and the other only has the Colorado River and groundwater.

It’s lazy sensationalism for people who want to read what they want to hear.

Garbage article, because you are in denial? Lots of articles and studies. Here's a quote, that speaks to your comment...

“We’re just starting to acknowledge the volatile water reality,” said Kevin Moran, senior director of western water for the Environmental Defense Fund. “We’re just starting to ask the adaptation questions.” Ross, of New York University, argues that the biggest problem for Arizona is not climate change, but the denial of it, which keeps real solutions — such as reining in unsustainable growth or the widespread deployment of solar energy in this sun-drenched region — from being considered. “How you meet those challenges and how you anticipate and overcome them is not a techno-fix problem,” he said, “It’s a question of social and political will.”

https://e360.yale.edu/features/how-p...do-river-water