South Philly: Pathetic... Brutal Beating After NHL Hockey Game (Philadelphia: apartment, crime)

[Duderino]

Originally Posted by frankgn87

I like how everyone assumes that the people doing the beating were not from the city.. lol.. It does not matter. It happened IN the city... This kinda crap happens in the city 99.9% of the time.. Would never happened in my town.. ever.. Cops would never stand for it..

I disagree. There's so many tired stereotypes about Philly sports fans being classless hooligans, and it's often directed at the city-dwellers themselves. I think there is definitely something to be said for the fact that many of the perpetrators of these types of incidents are from the suburbs. Some seem come into the city looking to start trouble, and Philly ends up having to bear the brunt of the bad press, when it should be Cherry Hill, et al.

[G Goo]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

If you read the post that you replied to a little more closely, you would have read the part where I talked about Steeler fans calling out other Steeler fans for stupid behavior.

Interesting. I could mention how poorly I was treated in Pittsburgh as a visiting Eagles fan in '04. Bumped, pushed, cursed at....unprovoked mind you. Not every Steelers fan, but a bunch. Nobody called it out. Not one person. The difference is that i didn't label all Steelers fans as knuckleheads like others tend to do towards Eagles fans. Thugs are everywhere. It's a shame, and it deserves punishment, everywhere.

[frankgn87]

Originally Posted by Duderino

I disagree. There's so many tired stereotypes about Philly sports fans being classless hooligans, and it's often directed at the city-dwellers themselves. I think there is definitely something to be said for the fact that many of the perpetrators of these types of incidents are from the suburbs. Some seem come into the city looking to start trouble, and Philly ends up having to bear the brunt of the bad press, when it should be Cherry Hill, et al.

well. The people doing the beating were from Philly.. and they beat up people who were not from Philly. Those are the facts.

BUT- this kinda stuff happens in all the cities. Philly didn't corner the market on this type of behavior. The reason it usually don't happen in the burbs is the cops are much less tolerant of this sorta stuff and are more likely to take a proactive approach. The cops in my town are all built like brick ... houses and are very intimidating and aren't afraid to take control.. People know this and stay away

[Marius Pontmercy]

Originally Posted by frankgn87

well. The people doing the beating were from Philly.. and they beat up people who were not from Philly. Those are the facts.

BUT- this kinda stuff happens in all the cities. Philly didn't corner the market on this type of behavior. The reason it usually don't happen in the burbs is the cops are much less tolerant of this sorta stuff and are more likely to take a proactive approach. The cops in my town are all built like brick ... houses and are very intimidating and aren't afraid to take control.. People know this and stay away

Riddle me this Frank: if the stadiums were out in your part of Jersey, I guess you think the hooligans wouldn't bother attending games and then floodthe local food establishments? I'm sure it has everything to do with your "brick..." cops, because all Philly cops are total wussies, right? There are so many incidents of violence committed by sports fans in other cities that saying sports fans only become violent because they enter Philadelphia is absolutely insane. Try not to let your emotional Philly hate cloud your judgement here. I remember two years ago when New York Red Bulls supporters surrounded and threw rocks at the Sons of Ben's charter bus outside Red Bull Arena. They broke the windows on the bus before the driver took off, but imagine what would have happened had some fans got caught outside in that mob. That didn't even make the paper, and it happened in New Jersey by the way. Or what about the HUGE FREAKING RIOTS IN VANCOUVER AFTER THE STANLEY CUP FINAL??? Man do you really want me to have to go and research sports hooliganism, because I will if you want me to. This behavior has nothing to do with Philadelphia and everything to do with a hooligan culture among sports fans as well as excessive drinking before, during, and after games.

[phillies2011]

Originally Posted by frankgn87

well. The people doing the beating were from Philly.. and they beat up people who were not from Philly. Those are the facts.

BUT- this kinda stuff happens in all the cities. Philly didn't corner the market on this type of behavior. The reason it usually don't happen in the burbs is the cops are much less tolerant of this sorta stuff and are more likely to take a proactive approach. The cops in my town are all built like brick $hit houses and are very intimidating and aren't afraid to take control.. People know this and stay away

Laughing my ass off at the idea that cops in whatever podunk Nj town you live in, having tougher cops than Philadelphia. This doesn't happen where you live because there is never a time when 1000s of people come into your town for entertainment or to drink.

[Boompa]

I'm amazed that Jersey fans would venture into the city, they certainly wouldn't ride the Subway.
Living in Arizona I should be OK, nobody cares about the Coyotes

[LibraGirl123]

Originally Posted by frankgn87

Edward Neary, one of the ones who did the beating IS from Philly..

Originally Posted by couldntthinkofaclevername

From the city how? Did he grow up there? Do you know this for a fact?

If so, and if he indeed jumped some fans and they did absolutely nothing to provoke it then yes he is a disgrace to the city and its fans.

And all of that is a very big if.

According to his Facebook profile, Edward Neary is a graduate of Father Judge High School and attends Community College of Philadelphia. His interests are listed as "Money" and "An More Money." Under favorite athlete, he listed, "Seriously I will punch you in the . . . face."

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[Shizzles]

Originally Posted by Duderino

I disagree. There's so many tired stereotypes about Philly sports fans being classless hooligans, and it's often directed at the city-dwellers themselves. I think there is definitely something to be said for the fact that many of the perpetrators of these types of incidents are from the suburbs. Some seem come into the city looking to start trouble, and Philly ends up having to bear the brunt of the bad press, when it should be Cherry Hill, et al.

People from outside the Delaware Valley see the entire metro as "Philly". I don't think mr Corn Farmer in Iowa can really point out "Bustelton" any better than he can find Bangladesh. Same with New York. Long Island, Queens, NJ, it's all the "Big Apple" to folks...

Secondly, Philly people, both inside and outside the city, have always had a thuggish attitude to life in general. Tons of white kids out here in Bucks Co with backwards caps, shouting profanites out of their cars at walkers, trying to stare you down, talking about the beatdown they marginally won last night, the women with the attitude. Philly/NJ people are all about the aggro. Say what you will about NYC/CHI but I find if you start none there will be none. Most people go out and do their thing and are chill. Philly people need to be "hard" 24/7 and no one is truly safe if someone decides they have an issue. Someone minding their own buisness makes the mistake of coming off (weither true or not) as "Weak" or "Soft" is instantly a target.

[DarkWolf]

Originally Posted by frankgn87

well. The people doing the beating were from Philly.. and they beat up people who were not from Philly. Those are the facts.

BUT- this kinda stuff happens in all the cities. Philly didn't corner the market on this type of behavior. The reason it usually don't happen in the burbs is the cops are much less tolerant of this sorta stuff and are more likely to take a proactive approach. The cops in my town are all built like brick $hit houses and are very intimidating and aren't afraid to take control.. People know this and stay away

There was a vicious attack similar to this one in East Rutherford after a Gaints / Jets game.... Stuff like this happens everywhere no matter the place....

[Craziaskowboi]

Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey

There was a vicious attack similar to this one in East Rutherford after a Gaints / Jets game.... Stuff like this happens everywhere no matter the place....

To my recollection, though, it didn't make the national news.