Believe Science? (Pensacola: home, live in, store)

[slduvall]

Yeah Breitbart...a leader in the news world!

From the BBC -- Seems Mr Moore is in the business of making money off of making energy.

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Mr Moore, an ecologist and former Greenpeace activist, was a part of the group during its early days in the 1970s.

Greenpeace has denied links to Mr Moore before, and has created a page detailing Mr Moore's background, lobbying efforts and views that go against Greenpeace's mission.

"Although Mr Moore played a significant role in Greenpeace Canada for several years, he did not found Greenpeace," the organisation said. "Phil Cotes, Irving Stowe, and Jim Bohlen founded Greenpeace in 1970."

The group eventually voted him out of leadership roles and Mr Moore left Greenpeace in 1986.

He has since become an independent environmental consultant and nuclear energy advocate. He is a member of the CO2 coalition, a nonprofit group that contends carbon emissions are not bad for the environment.

On his Twitter biography, however, Mr Moore describes himself as a "Greenpeace co-founder, 15 yr leader, dropped out in '86 to be The Sensible Environmentalist".

[mrviking]

Originally Posted by slduvall

Yeah Breitbart...a leader in the news world!

From the BBC -- Seems Mr Moore is in the business of making money off of making energy.

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Mr Moore, an ecologist and former Greenpeace activist, was a part of the group during its early days in the 1970s.

Greenpeace has denied links to Mr Moore before, and has created a page detailing Mr Moore's background, lobbying efforts and views that go against Greenpeace's mission.

"Although Mr Moore played a significant role in Greenpeace Canada for several years, he did not found Greenpeace," the organisation said. "Phil Cotes, Irving Stowe, and Jim Bohlen founded Greenpeace in 1970."

The group eventually voted him out of leadership roles and Mr Moore left Greenpeace in 1986.

He has since become an independent environmental consultant and nuclear energy advocate. He is a member of the CO2 coalition, a nonprofit group that contends carbon emissions are not bad for the environment.

On his Twitter biography, however, Mr Moore describes himself as a "Greenpeace co-founder, 15 yr leader, dropped out in '86 to be The Sensible Environmentalist".

That was a radio interview with Mr Moore. He was with Greenpeace and in a leadership role. He knows the scam better then you or I.

[AnsleyPark]

Originally Posted by mrviking

Follow the money! This was an interview with Patrick Moore



Greenpeace Founder: Global Warming Hoax Pushed by Corrupt Scientists ‘Hooked on Government Grants’



https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019...rnment-grants/

Gotta love the conspiracy theories...

[ConnecticutSir]

Originally Posted by BWHATL

I can't believe this is even a question, but my husband and I are considering moving to Pensacola, but am a bit daunted by what we are reading about mask wearing. Does Pensacola have a group of people who believe scientists? While we enjoy a diversity of perspective, we don't want to be the only ones who believe that climate change is real and that science matters. We do not mind if our neighbors fly a Trump flag, but we don't want to be the only ones without one.

I think you answered your own question. You seem well aware of the overall political climate of that area. You have to decide for yourself if you want to live amongst people with whom you may disagree with on politics. Nobody can make that decision except you. But from my perspective, you seem a bit full of yourself. No place that you move to in this entire world appreciates that sort of attitude.

[pizza_pablo]

Originally Posted by beachmouse

A few weeks back, I actually did see the living stereotype of the Trump anti-science weirdo who was screaming at the employee at the Best But in Destin responsible for mask enforcement about how coronavirus was a scam and masks didn't do anything.

I miss the days when the area was heavier on Air Force research scientists and lighter on the Mike Huckabee crowd that lacks all sense and reason.

What all is sold at this Best Butt you speak of?

[pizza_pablo]

Originally Posted by AnsleyPark

What do you call mask wearing???

Conditioning.

[pizza_pablo]

Originally Posted by WRnative

As the evidence changed, so did the advice offered.

We were told it was surface borne and not to touch anything. It was not.

We were told, TWO MILLION AMERICANS were going to die. They did not.

The CDC admitted, last November, that only 9000 Americans had died of covid, alone. HUGE DIFFERENCE.

[roodd279]

We were told it was surface borne and not to touch anything. It was not.
Nope. You were never told "not to touch anything." You were told it could possibly live on surfaces, and depending on the surface, maybe for hours or days. And if you want to absolutely certain that you are not catching it by touching something - then you should wash your hands, and not touch your face. That has never changed and is still true. We know now that touch is not a primary vector of transmission - but no one ever said it was. They said we weren't sure how much it contributed - and we're still not.


We were told, TWO MILLION AMERICANS were going to die.

Nope. You were given a straight line guess by anyone with a ruler and a brain that this is where the numbers were headed if something didn't change. That is - if no restrictions were implemented, could we hit 2 million? You bet. Still true. But we'll never know, because there ARE restrictions - and still, uh, we're 25% of the way there, and it ain't over yet. Go ahead. Find a link that predicted two million USA deaths with restrictions in place.


The CDC admitted, last November, that only 9000 Americans had died of covid, alone.

It's not an admission - as if there were a crime or something. It's just the simple truth of death certificates. Short of an accident, it's very difficult to die of one thing alone. If you get the flu, then die of pneumonia, what's on your death certificate? Flu alone? Nope. What killed you? The flu. Even if you test negative after you die - it might say the flu. But you probably won't be tested, for the flu or anything else. That's just how it works, how it has always worked.



If you die of complications from diabetes - what's on your death certificate? Diabetes and nothing else? Nope. But no one doubts that diabetes kills people every day. So does covid. With or without a "co-" cause - without COVID those people would still be alive.



So the CDC could change what they expect physicians to write in that little square on the death certificate - but it won't bring any of them back. They're all still dead. Check the excess deaths.

[BartramBuck]

What I still don’t understand, is if you are afraid of this, then fine be afraid if it.

You can have groceries delivered. Food delivered. Telemedicine. remote schools. Rxs delivered. You name it, it can be done “safely”.

My whole family had Covid, and almost all my friends. Not one of has a temperature or even a runny nose. I’m not afraid of this. I’d like life to return to normal for the hundreds of millions of us that have had a similar experience.

The VAST majority of people have ZERO issues with this virus. For those of you afraid, live remotely. I’d like my life back though.

[BartramBuck]

Originally Posted by roodd279

We were told it was surface borne and not to touch anything. It was not.
Nope. You were never told "not to touch anything." You were told it could possibly live on surfaces, and depending on the surface, maybe for hours or days. And if you want to absolutely certain that you are not catching it by touching something - then you should wash your hands, and not touch your face. That has never changed and is still true. We know now that touch is not a primary vector of transmission - but no one ever said it was. They said we weren't sure how much it contributed - and we're still not.


We were told, TWO MILLION AMERICANS were going to die.

Nope. You were given a straight line guess by anyone with a ruler and a brain that this is where the numbers were headed if something didn't change. That is - if no restrictions were implemented, could we hit 2 million? You bet. Still true. But we'll never know, because there ARE restrictions - and still, uh, we're 25% of the way there, and it ain't over yet. Go ahead. Find a link that predicted two million USA deaths with restrictions in place.


The CDC admitted, last November, that only 9000 Americans had died of covid, alone.

It's not an admission - as if there were a crime or something. It's just the simple truth of death certificates. Short of an accident, it's very difficult to die of one thing alone. If you get the flu, then die of pneumonia, what's on your death certificate? Flu alone? Nope. What killed you? The flu. Even if you test negative after you die - it might say the flu. But you probably won't be tested, for the flu or anything else. That's just how it works, how it has always worked.



If you die of complications from diabetes - what's on your death certificate? Diabetes and nothing else? Nope. But no one doubts that diabetes kills people every day. So does covid. With or without a "co-" cause - without COVID those people would still be alive.



So the CDC could change what they expect physicians to write in that little square on the death certificate - but it won't bring any of them back. They're all still dead. Check the excess deaths.

Good news is the American Cancer Society the fewest number of people died of cancer in a long time. Probably has nothing to do with how they check a little box.....