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The only band to effectively make the grunge style of music were Nirvana, The Breeders, and the Pixies who really created the genre.. Soundgarden and Pearl Jam were never grunge. Alice 'n' Chains were decent, but not my thing. Other grunge bands like Seven Mary Three, Sponge, and countless others were just awful.
I hope we keep waiting. I'm good for waiting another decade or two on new Limp Bizkit.
Judging by their "new" song I would say I want to see what the entire album is.
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Similarly, is there any way to UN-release Guns 'n' Roses Chinese Democracy?
It wasn't THAT bad of album. But it wasn't as good as the stuff from when Slash was around.
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Boys II Men didn't play any music at all. They vocalized and danced to a bunch of bubblegum soul-pop created by a bunch of studio producers and writers which was played by studio musicians and computers.
That doesn't disqualify it as music or make it invalid as entertainment if that's a person's taste, but it's a far cry from actual bands who actually play instruments and actually write their own material.
There's always a market for R&B groups (look at Jodeici, All for One and B2K) and people don't mind vocalist whether it is rock, pop or urban.
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And no, I'm not the huge grunge fan either. Not even back in the day.
Grunge was so influential and still is today. Many acts are derivative of grunge similar to early heavy metal in the 80's and 90's. I mean sure everyone craps on the bands like Candlebox, Creed, Daughtry, Live, Nickelback
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The only band to effectively make the grunge style of music were Nirvana, The Breeders, and the Pixies who really created the genre.. Soundgarden and Pearl Jam were never grunge. Alice 'n' Chains were decent, but not my thing. Other grunge bands like Seven Mary Three, Sponge, and countless others were just awful.
Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were grunge but were much more than that. Pearl Jam evolved over time into more alternative than just grunge (though that could be because like Nirvana, they got tired of how corporate the look of grunge got with the post-grunge bands that were given the sound similar to how hard rock bands become hair bands in the 80's even if that was not their original sound.
The only band to effectively make the grunge style of music were Nirvana, The Breeders, and the Pixies who really created the genre...
Personally, I think "grunge" was "made" by a bunch of guys in suits working at A&R departments of a few record labels in an attempt to scoop up a few bands with a regional or stylistic similarities and market the general, overall look and sound to a bunch of kids and young adults.
It's just rock music.
People could argue all day about who is true grunge or punk rock or alt or indie or whatever, but that's silly.
I do, however, like a lot of Nirvana's material (and saw them a couple times) and was a big Breeders and Pixies fan. Still like all those bands fine, just don't listen that much anymore.
Personally, I think "grunge" was "made" by a bunch of guys in suits working at A&R departments of a few record labels in an attempt to scoop up a few bands with a regional or stylistic similarities and market the general, overall look and sound to a bunch of kids and young adults.
It's just rock music.
People could argue all day about who is true grunge or punk rock or alt or indie or whatever, but that's silly.
I do, however, like a lot of Nirvana's material (and saw them a couple times) and was a big Breeders and Pixies fan. Still like all those bands fine, just don't listen that much anymore.
I think the image of grunge is an A&R thing (just like hair metal before it and emo after it.) The sound was was made by the bands, the image became an A&R cliche like so many other scenes.
I think the genre deal is fluid for the most part. I don't try to get hung up on it myself but some bands have distinct sounds through their entire careers (like Pearl Jam) while others (like Suicidal Tendencies) bounce between genres.
Music in the 60's, 70's and 80's was easily superior to the 90's. If there is a revival, people are simply settling for less. Boys II Men played good music in the 90's, but grunge groups with far less talent got more publicity.
90's music was still pretty good. The golden age of hip hop. In the 1990's rap was about dealing with poverty and violence, and that lead to good music because it was created from the soul and the heart. 21st century rap is bragging about how much p*ssy you get and how big your limo is. A lot of rappers now write songs using their wallets and their d*cks, and it leads to awful music.
I still think that the classic rock from the 60's to the 80's and the outstanding Motown/soul of the mid-60's to early 70's era outclass anything that happened in the 90's. The 90's music may be OK. Having spent a lot of time listening to the three previous decades and the high standard that was set, it is difficult to regard 90's music highly.
Then you have the iconic performers like Beatles, Paul McCartney after Beatles, Dylan, Rolling Stones, The Who and several others from those eras that will not likely be matched. The only real weakness of the three decades prior to the 90's was when disco dominated and that was really just from about 1977-1980, then MTV occurred and rock became more influential again very quickly.
I am not saying there is no good music from that decade and at least it is better than the current era (2000 to today). Rap was better back then (though I am not a fan). MC Hammer and LL Cool J had some good tunes, though.
After 2006 there was a small 80's revival when Livin on a Prayer, It's the End of the World As We Know It, and Don't Stop Believin were being played on many music stations.
Is there gonna be something similar soon, but this time with the 1990's? Im starting to hear Nirvana and Boyz II Men a lot more often, so I think the early 90's are starting to sip in
Mariah Carey incorporated many aspects of the the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s into her music. She has done that since her 1990 debut.
Many artists like J Lo tried to incorporate 80s music and samples into their music.
The Glitter album by Mariah Carey pays homage to 1980s music and is a great effort and release, that many overlook.
Mariah Carey incorporated many aspects of the the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s into her music. She has done that since her 1990 debut.
Many artists like J Lo tried to incorporate 80s music and samples into their music.
The Glitter album by Mariah Carey pays homage to 1980s music and is a great effort and release, that many overlook.
If only it wasn't tied to that stupid movie, I think it would be better. I remember Loverboy (the lead single) being a good song. I have only listened to Music Box in its entirity and that was pretty good.
J Lo's first album was the best, after that she went downhill IMO.
The issue with 90's non rock is I think the pop had a limited shelflife compared to say the 80's new wave inspired pop which has lived on.
I think there is a strong thread of 90s revivalism in a lot of the best recent pop music out of the UK. Something like this magnificent track, for instance:
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