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Old 10-03-2018, 11:07 AM
 
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From all this what shocked me the most is that they may raise taxes if you install hardwood floors instead of carpet. I just bought hardwood floors at less than $4 Sq ft. How is that a factor in my taxes??
The only thing that this would do is make people want to keep their houses ugly. Wtf?
This is why, under no circumstance do you ever let the town inside your house. Unless you doing a major addition, there is no need for them to every do an inspection. They have no idea what the inside of your home looks like and you should keep it that way.
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Old 10-03-2018, 11:33 AM
 
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That's not my point. I'm saying that (and I hope it's not the case in Nassau) they will not tax a house based on desirability. It's ridiculous.
The only thing that [should] matter is square footage and TOWN desirability and "amenities". What happens inside your square footage is nobody's business.
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Old 10-03-2018, 12:18 PM
 
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That's not my point. I'm saying that (and I hope it's not the case in Nassau) they will not tax a house based on desirability. It's ridiculous.
The only thing that [should] matter is square footage and TOWN desirability and "amenities". What happens inside your square footage is nobody's business.
Well your in for a disappointing reality check. They will tell you that interior renovations will not increase your taxes. This is 100% true, but this is where the truth is a lie. Your renovate your kitchen get a permit for some dumb reason. The town comes over you are fine, the sink you moved 2 feet is fine as is the wall you removed. This will not raise your taxes. BUT they will now say your house is more valuable due to the new kitchen and they will make your FMV higher thus triggering a tax increase. They told you the truth renovating your interior will not cause a tax hike, but it will trigger your house to be considered worth more $$ this raising your FMV and the hike in your FMV will raise your taxes.

I cant speak for all of Suffolk. Huntington does it the way you mentioned. Sale Price, Sq footage, Lot size are the core bathrooms,garage,pool,fireplace have an impact but its minimal. They don't care if you have gold floors with with diamond grout or shag carpet from 1973.
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Old 10-03-2018, 05:13 PM
 
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Did you renovate your kitchen and got a tax increase?
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Old 10-05-2018, 11:32 AM
 
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The plans may not be perfect, and in some cases might be painful, but better than the current absolute disaster of a system we currently have. The donations either sides has received from these firms aren't even remotely close.
She took $15,000 in donations from a law firm which does the assessments.

You can't say you're going to change the system if you are influenced by outside $$$$.

The bottom line is this needs to be handled by the individual TOWNS, not Nassau County. Nassau is broke because they are responsible for the assessments.
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Old 10-05-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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Who even knows what the fook you're talking about?! My post agreed with you (even though you cut out the 100 in front of %), so if I'm a liberal, then you are too, snowy. As for S. Merrick, again, remove your head from yer azz. Their rep is a republican. Nice try, one trick pony.
That's because you're hero Denenberg went to jail!
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Old 10-05-2018, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The only way to make assessments truly fair is to compile a check list with a ton of different variables for example hardwood floors, tile floors, laminate floors, etc. and do the same for every different possibility of home features. Then a value would be ascribed to that feature and then based upon the total number an assessment could be rendered. And here is where it all falls apart. Several teams would have to be assembled so that over a period of time, each home is visited and inventoried. Even if it were accomplishable physically, how can a demand be made that an inspector could enter every home. It will never happen.

Probably the sale price assessment with perhaps an average neighborhood number would be the closest. Maybe even an average over 5 years so in a down market people are not getting killed. That way you toss the high and the low and get to a point that is more centric. It will still not be great but maybe a little better.
nope..you don't use ""features"" for an assessment


whether you have solid wood floors or cheap Pergo, should not matter


total acreage , total bedrooms, total living square foot, total subterranean/in living square foot, number of garages/sheds, and total fencing and pools


just like for insurance purposes.. you have a 2000sf house, figure 75k worth of inside stuff
2000sf x the going rate for a build (say 150 a square) = 300k plus 75k... total insured value 375k doesn't matter if you bought the dump for 750k..the building is only worth the cost to build a new one
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Old 10-06-2018, 10:00 AM
 
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Palm Beach County Florida does around a 2% flat tax. Home prices go up taxes increase. Value goes down so do your taxes. Problem solved.
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Old 10-06-2018, 10:59 AM
 
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Some of the incorporated villages that levy their own property taxes absolutely do care what your interior finishes are.

For example the Village of Nissequogue will impose extra taxes (which they call "surcharges", as if you've done something wrong, lol) for things like Jacuzzi/jetted bathtubs and intercom systems, which they classify as "luxury amenities." They will also surcharge you for putting brick facing on more than just the house front. Marble or granite tile instead of ceramic or porcelain = surcharge. No surcharge for hardwood versus carpet-over-plywood though.

I wouldn't be surprised if Head of the Harbor does the same thing, because those two villages work in tandem in many aspects.

Don't know if it has changed in recent years (I doubt it) but during the 1990s Nissequogue would levy a flat 11% of whatever the Town of Smithtown taxes were, as the base Village property tax amount and then add whatever "luxury amenity surcharges" you may have that are on their list. I did laugh at the Nutone intercom system being a "luxury" item though. I wonder if one of the Smart Home systems would get the same treatment nowadays.

Now, that said, my experience with them was in connection with new construction and so for a remodeling job things may work differently.


ETA: The more I think about it, the less sure I am that the all-brickface surcharge was Nissequogue's. That one may have come from Town of Smithtown. I am pretty sure that the intercom and whirlpool tub surcharges were from the Village though. Sorry about the memory gap but that was 20 years ago and we sold the house as soon as the final COs were issued, never having moved into it. The house took 2 years to build. Smithtown does "partial assessments" of ongoing new construction during the process and the first tax bills we got from both jurisdictions did have the unexpected surcharges on them.

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Old 10-06-2018, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Tierra del Encanto
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Palm Beach County Florida does around a 2% flat tax. Home prices go up taxes increase. Value goes down so do your taxes. Problem solved.
Problem not solved when the county's budget hasn't changed. Every year, they need more money to cover expenses, and this ain't gonna happen on LI. I recall my taxes went up every year, even though the value had dropped when the r.e. market crashed.

They get around the valuation dropping by raising the rate.
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