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I'm very biased in this regard though as I absolutely hate Chicago and LA is my favorite city. I could go on and on about all the bad things about Chicago where as LA has very few flaws.
As far as LA and NY comparison, I would say they are equal in influence but just too different to compare.
What were some of the things you disliked/hated about Chicago if I may ask?
What were some of the things you disliked/hated about Chicago if I may ask?
Why on earth would you ever ask? The guy admitted point blank he's totally biased so I have a feeling it would be him spouting off things so everyone could calmly explain why he's "totally biased"...which he admits.
Like Chicago not having anywhere to park downtown and that Philly has a garage downtown. For crying out loud the garages under the parks in downtown Chicago are thought to be the largest underground parking system in the world with over 10,000 spaces at a fairly reasonable rate. There are also literally tens of thousands of parking spots in around 150 parking ramps/lots. The one next to my building is 17 stories tall.
Do we reall want a thread like that....everyone rolling their eyes and the claws coming out.
Why on earth would you ever ask? The guy admitted point blank he's totally biased so I have a feeling it would be him spouting off things so everyone could calmly explain why he's "totally biased"...which he admits.
Like Chicago not having anywhere to park downtown and that Philly has a garage downtown. For crying out loud the garages under the parks in downtown Chicago are thought to be the largest underground parking system in the world with over 10,000 spaces at a fairly reasonable rate. There are also literally tens of thousands of parking spots in around 150 parking ramps/lots. The one next to my building is 17 stories tall.
Do we reall want a thread like that....everyone rolling their eyes and the claws coming out.
Snore.
Seems like City-Data is the new Trivial Pursuit LOL
This is just laughable for a native Philadelphian (me). I'm curious if you are African-American. You seem to view Philadelphia thru the eyes of southern black Americans that moved here during WWII and after. Philly is much more than that.
I think there is some truth to this, Bajan (and I actually like his contankerousness (most times), which still shows he is Philly to me) I think does largely view Philly through an AA lense. And that is fine because I likely view it through a caucasion lense. You are right Philly is more than purely either.
On topic Philly and Chicago have many similarities, and also are very distinct cities. Personlly am proud our great country (not perfect country) has both. Two of my personal favorites
I think there is some truth to this, Bajan (and I actually like his contankerousness (most times), which still shows he is Philly to me) I think does largely view Philly through an AA lense. And that is fine because I likely view it through a caucasion lense. You are right Philly is more than purely either.
I think it's fair to say that I view most things through an AA lens. How could I not? But I think it's also fair to say that I view things largely through a Jewish lens as well. And through a West Indian lens. When you're a minority, you are essentially forced to see the world in a way that someone in the majority does not. I have to interact with white people every day whether I like it or not. That's part of working in corporate America. But most middle to upper middle class whites really don't have to deal with Hispanics or Blacks in any meaningful numbers unless they want to (or work in the public school system). Most white people will never have a job where 98% of their co-workers and superiors are of a different race. Thus, it's usually the case that minorities know way more about mainstream White culture and POV than vice versa.
So when I point certain things out, I only do so to say that we're often not accounting for a substantial portion of the population. If you live somewhere like Center City, Dupont Circle, or the Upper West Side, you probably don't have much experience with other areas in those cities, particularly if you are a transplant. And that often leads to a huge cultural disconnect between different people living only a few miles from each other.
In cases where I can use data to make a point, I'd rather do that because perception can often differ drastically from the reality. For example, we learned that the plurality of domestic transplants to the DC Metro area come from the Southeastern U.S. It's a fact. But if you relied wholly on anecdotal evidence, then most people would probably say there were more migrants from the Northeast. People have also said "You act like White Catholics are the only people in Philadelphia," which is something I've never said, btw. But the data shows that White Catholics and Jews constitute the majority of non-Hispanic Whites in Philadelphia and NYC. Fact. Data is way more fun and interesting because it can expose the biases in our perception of things.
This is just laughable for a native Philadelphian (me). I'm curious if you are African-American. You seem to view Philadelphia thru the eyes of southern black Americans that moved here during WWII and after. Philly is much more than that.
Well, if the logic that people use is that northern transplants "northernize" cities, then it can only make sense that southern transplants, at some point, "northernized" cities too. The only way you can reach any other conclusion is if you put a value judgment on certain people.
It's funny that someone would say that I focus too much on southern Black Americans. Typically, people say I focus too much on Italians, Irish or Puerto Ricans, etc.
In case you were interested, Italians, Irish, Poles, Jews and Puerto Ricans represent 36% of the Philadelphia MSA. African Americans make up 20%. Asians make up about 5%. So at the end of the day, we're not talking about a very "Anglo"/Protestant population in the metro area. And I only point this out because I get so much flack for focusing on these specific groups. If they make up the majority of the population, why wouldn't I?
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In case you were interested, Italians, Irish, Poles, Jews and Puerto Ricans represent 36% of the Philadelphia MSA. African Americans make up 20%. Asians make up about 5%. So at the end of the day, we're not talking about a very "Anglo"/Protestant population in the metro area. And I only point this out because I get so much flack for focusing on these specific groups. If they make up the majority of the population, why wouldn't I?
To get back on the topic, what is the percentage of Italo-Irish-Polish-Jewish-Puerto Ricans in the Chicago MSA?
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