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Old 10-30-2008, 06:24 AM
 
Location: in purgurtory in London
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i am more surprised at the company obama still keeps.....
I just think it's a shame he has to hide his association with these people because of his higher ambitions.
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:33 AM
 
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I know I was and I sought out radical people. Didn't you ever question the world you lived in, justice, social problems etc or did you just sail blindly through college in a stupor.

Why are some of you surprised about Obama's earlier views and the company he kept?
yes, i did, and so it doesn't surprise me. i just don't think that ayers is a bad person. since obama met him he has been in civil rights and has won awards and at this moment over 2,000 academic people have signed a petition saying that he is not a terrorist. why isn't this list in the news?
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:34 AM
 
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Keep it up guys, I can't wait for the current Republican party to collapse. Perhaps, then us real fiscal conservatives can remake the party the way it was. Good work!
i hope you are right, but i fear that the election will be stolen again.
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:41 AM
 
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I know I was and I sought out radical people. Didn't you ever question the world you lived in, justice, social problems etc or did you just sail blindly through college in a stupor.

Why are some of you surprised about Obama's earlier views and the company he kept?
No, I was more liberal before I had a family to care for and reality set in. But I never hated my country.
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:43 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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I became "radical" at age 16, when I began to question Christianity. I got around other faiths like Hinduism and Buddhism (friends in school) and wondered what made Christianity so much better, why was theirs wrong and mine right? I went to my pastor and he couldn't answer to my satisfaction. He said, because it says it in the Bible... that just didn't do it for me at all.

I then began to enlighten myself, search out my own truth and when things like that happen, your eyes become open to the WORLD in ways that you hadn't noticed before. Your curiosity grows and you just dive into different things, and yes that means questioning my countries motives. You can watch http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com to get an idea of what type of pondering and conclusion making!

I am also a f.a.g. hag. I love gay people, yet I don't agree with that lifestyle. So you can be around plenty of people that you disagree with, but understand where they are coming from and respect them for their choices in life.
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:43 AM
 
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I graduated from HS in '68 and lived on the west coast Yup, I marched on many issues, the war...ummm that was Viet Nam, womans rights, native american rights to name a few.

I was tired of seeing my friends come home in a box or so devistated and screwed up from the war they became non-functioning people.

I worked as a nurse, sometimes in a VA hospital. I had several years of experience yet new hire male nurses made more than me

I am a mixed blood indian and watching what was happening to my brothers and sisters on and off the rez would make anyone ill.

I was a member of some pretty radical groups at the time...do I regret it...nope. I still work with groups now trying to make the lives of indians better.l
Thank you for your service to the country! Warriors do not all wear uniforms to protect our freedoms.
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:43 AM
 
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My views were much different when I first started college. College in the US is just a much different world than High school or the genera public. Ideas are allowed to flow freely, you can talk about and disagree about current policies without being called names etc. In some sense when you first start college its a shock and your views tend to flop around until you learn more.

You can probably find a quote from any law professor, political science professor etc that makes them sound like a "communist" to the uneducated. In fact if you use any of 'em big and fancy words you're obviously a liberal commie rag.
Ideas are allowed to flow freely on college campuses? Only if you are a liberal...if you are conservative and you want decent grades, you have to keep it to yourself.
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:43 AM
 
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i never hated my country and never wanted to blow anything up, so i would have to give that a big "no".
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:45 AM
 
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yes, i did, and so it doesn't surprise me. i just don't think that ayers is a bad person. since obama met him he has been in civil rights and has won awards and at this moment over 2,000 academic people have signed a petition saying that he is not a terrorist. why isn't this list in the news?
i guess that ayers did not try and blow up anybody in your family so that makes him a good guy in your book.
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:48 AM
 
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i never hated my country and never wanted to blow anything up, so i would have to give that a big "no".
Not every radical was out blowing things up! I can remember my sister coming home all black and blue from a sit in where they were dragged down steps and they just wrapped their arms around their heads to keep them from smashing on the steps. The only violence there was the manhandling by the police. Since they had all paid the price of admission (big expensive tuitions, they were not really trespassing, according to the court case) . This was small time stuff in small colleges, all over the country. And since we withdrew from Viet Nam and the domino effect never happened, those "crazy" kids were proven correct.
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