The Big 10 and Big 12 need name changes. (average, Ohio, teams)

[Kerby W-R]

...at least the PAC 8 became the PAC 10 and progressed to the PAC 12 which all makes sense. Maybe these conferences should eliminate the number like the SEC. That seems to be the best way.

[Toxic Toast]

Big Ten is a "brand." It has been a number of years since the "ten" had any relevance to the number of teams.

To further expound on the idea that complaining about the name of the B1G is silly......... the Atlantic 10 Conference has 17 teams and stretches all the way to St. Louis. The Atlantic Coast Conference recently accepted Notre Dame (in Indiana) as a member in all sports but football. The Big West once included Northern Illinois. The Mid-American Conference includes a team from Massachusetts and formerly included a team from Philadelphia.

[ScoPro]

Big 12-2 = "Dinky Dozen"

[hoffdano]

I nominate "Decimal 12" for the Big 12.

[cubssoxfan]

Big 10 and Big 12 should merge so we can have a Big-BIG-BIG conference!

[Chriscross309]

need to scrap conferences period and go to equal divisions like in pro sports.

160 D-1 teams, 16 (10 team) conferences, and a 16 team playoff at the end of the year. All based on location and equal distributation of powerhouse and weak schools.

[MrRational]

Originally Posted by Kerby W-R

The Big 10 and Big 12 need name changes.
...at least the PAC 8 became the PAC 10 and progressed to the PAC 12 which all makes sense.

Fear The Turtle

[cry_havoc]

Originally Posted by Chriscross309

need to scrap conferences period and go to equal divisions like in pro sports.

160 D-1 teams, 16 (10 team) conferences, and a 16 team playoff at the end of the year. All based on location and equal distributation of powerhouse and weak schools.

That is going to be rough on the athletes, and would require the athletes train and play football instead of attend school. I know at a lot of schools they hardly study, but with such a system there wouldnt even be an illusion.

[Chriscross309]

Originally Posted by cry_havoc

That is going to be rough on the athletes, and would require the athletes train and play football instead of attend school. I know at a lot of schools they hardly study, but with such a system there wouldnt even be an illusion.

It wouldn't be any kind of stretch compared to other sports.

In this system the average team is playing 12 regular season games, and maybe a bowl game. The Conference champs (16 teams) play another game which would be an 13th game like a bowl. Remember a 10 team conference wouldn't need a conference championship game. From the 1st round in the playoffs, only 8 teams play 14 game, only 4 play 15 games, and only 2 play 16 games.

Throw in that the conferences are based on geography and not money markets, means that teams will spend less time on the road. The additional 30 some teams would be the top teir of the FCS teams.

Conferences might look like this:

North East Division--- Uconn, BC, Syracuse, Penn State, Rutgers, Umass, ect....

Mid Atlantic Div.--- Maryland, WVU, VT, VA, Liberty, Temple, ect...

South East Div.--- Clemson, UNC, SC, Florida, FA&M, FIU,

South Div.--- LSU, Bama, Tulane, Troy, Miss., ect...

Ohio Valley Div.--- Louisville, Indiana, Cincy, KY,ect...

Texas Div.--- TX, TCU, OK, Utep, Texas State, ect...

Great Lakes Div.--- Mich, IL, Wic, MSU, CMU,

Great Plains Div.--- Iowa, NDSU, ISU,

Rocky Mountain Div.--- Colorado, BYU, Boise, Utah ect...

Southwest Div.--- Arizona, ASU, UCLA, SDSU, ect...

Pacific Div.--- Oregon, Washington, WSU, Stanford ect...

Mississippi Valley Div.---Missouri, LSU, Ark, Miss ST, ULM, ULL, ect...

Note that all of theses teams could fit in different divisions with different teams, but its kinda hard to think of 160 schools and what division would be best.

[JJG]

The Big 10 and Big 12 need name changes.

If it hasn't happened by now, don't expect it to.

Besides, people typically refer to the Big Ten as B1G and Big XII as "Big X(II)" or just Big 12-2 as mentioned above.