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50 square miles equates to a 4 mile radius circle.
Using this tool, here are the following cities ranked by "population within a 4 mile radius of the given zip code" using the "Let CAPS decide based on smallest radius" feature.
1) NYC (pop 1,997,622 & zip 11211)
2) Chicago (pop 831,738 & zip 60612)
3) Boston (pop 713,858 & zip 02116)
4) Philadelphia (pop 680,939 & zip 19123)
5) San Francisco (pop 658,482 & zip 94102)
6) Washington, DC (pop 551,330 & zip 20005)
7) Los Angeles (pop 542,383 & zip 90221)
8) Baltimore (pop 405,989 & zip 21201)
9) Miami (pop 396,418 & zip 33128)
10) Minneapolis (pop 348,762 & zip 55402)
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11) Denver (pop 335,403 & zip 80202)
12) Providence (pop 325,689 & zip 02903)
13) Seattle (pop 323,598 & zip 98101)
14) Milwaukee (pop 322,034 & zip 53201)
15) San Diego (pop 310,506 & zip 92101)
16) Houston (pop 2179,138 & zip 77002)
17) Austin (pop 254,770 & zip 78701)
18) Dallas (pop 249,322 & zip 75202)
19) Atlanta (pop 249,321 & zip 30303)
20) Detroit (pop 219,087 & zip 48202)
21) Hartford (pop 215,108 & zip 06103)
22) Charlotte (pop 161,708 & zip 28202)
23) Nashville (pop 156,562 & zip 37203)
For a lot of the cities, I looked with my untrained eye at the Google Maps satellite view and decided "this looks about right" to determine the center zip code. If you find a higher value for a different zip code for a listed city or you want to add a city to the list using the same tool and the same parameters (4mi radius & let CAPS decide), then feel free to update my ranking with the new numbers.
50 square miles equates to a 4 mile radius circle.
Using this tool, here are the following cities ranked by "population within a 4 mile radius of the given zip code" using the "Let CAPS decide based on smallest radius" feature.
1) NYC (pop 1,997,622 & zip 11211)
2) Chicago (pop 831,738 & zip 60612)
3) Boston (pop 713,858 & zip 02116)
4) Philadelphia (pop 680,939 & zip 19123)
5) San Francisco (pop 658,482 & zip 94102)
6) Washington, DC (pop 551,330 & zip 20005)
7) Los Angeles (pop 542,383 & zip 90221)
8) Baltimore (pop 405,989 & zip 21201)
9) Miami (pop 396,418 & zip 33128)
10) Minneapolis (pop 348,762 & zip 55402)
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11) Denver (pop 335,403 & zip 80202)
12) Providence (pop 325,689 & zip 02903)
13) Seattle (pop 323,598 & zip 98101)
14) Milwaukee (pop 322,034 & zip 53201)
15) San Diego (pop 310,506 & zip 92101)
16) Houston (pop 2179,138 & zip 77002)
17) Austin (pop 254,770 & zip 78701)
18) Dallas (pop 249,322 & zip 75202)
19) Atlanta (pop 249,321 & zip 30303)
20) Detroit (pop 219,087 & zip 48202)
21) Hartford (pop 215,108 & zip 06103)
22) Charlotte (pop 161,708 & zip 28202)
23) Nashville (pop 156,562 & zip 37203)
For a lot of the cities, I looked with my untrained eye at the Google Maps satellite view and decided "this looks about right" to determine the center zip code. If you find a higher value for a different zip code for a listed city or you want to add a city to the list using the same tool and the same parameters (4mi radius & let CAPS decide), then feel free to update my ranking with the new numbers.
Know that I will fact check you, though.
FYI 92101 for San Diego really wasn't the best choice since it's on the water. The mermaid population in San Diego Bay isn't as large as you would think.
All of these San Diego zip codes have a 4-mile radii with higher population than you listed. There could be more, but seven searches felt like overkill. I'd double check to make sure I entered the numbers correctly.
- 92105: 479K
- 92102: 450K
- 92104: 442K
- 92116: 424K
- 92115: 401K
- 92113: 365K
- 92139: 349K
I'd revisit some of your other center points. Miami, Seattle, etc.
All of these San Diego zip codes have a 4-mile radii with higher population than you listed. There could be more, but seven searches felt like overkill. I'd double check to make sure I entered the numbers correctly.
- 92105: 479K
I'd revisit some of your other center points. Miami, Seattle, etc.
Just remake my post rather than lecture!! I even said to do so!
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1) NYC (pop 1,997,622 & zip 11211)
2) Chicago (pop 831,738 & zip 60612)
3) Boston (pop 713,858 & zip 02116)
4) Philadelphia (pop 680,939 & zip 19123)
5) San Francisco (pop 658,482 & zip 94102)
6) Washington, DC (pop 551,330 & zip 2000
7) Los Angeles (pop 542,383 & zip 90221)
8) San Diego (pop 479,000 & zip 92105)
9) Baltimore (pop 405,989 & zip 21201)
10) Miami (pop 396,418 & zip 33128)
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11) Minneapolis (pop 348,762 & zip 55402)
12) Denver (pop 335,403 & zip 80202)
13) Providence (pop 325,689 & zip 02903)
14) Seattle (pop 323,598 & zip 98101)
15) Milwaukee (pop 322,034 & zip 53201)
16) Houston (pop 2179,138 & zip 77002)
17) Austin (pop 254,770 & zip 78701)
18) Dallas (pop 249,322 & zip 75202)
19) Atlanta (pop 249,321 & zip 30303)
20) Detroit (pop 219,087 & zip 48202)
21) Hartford (pop 215,108 & zip 06103)
22) Charlotte (pop 161,708 & zip 28202)
23) Nashville (pop 156,562 & zip 37203)
I haven't exactly figured it out, but it seems that the tool considers census tracts and decides whether or not a given track should be included. By my understanding, this should rule out ocean, lake, or desert area, but I don't know for sure that it does. I can look into it more later, but I just wanted to give you a heads-up.
However, if you know how to adjust the "central zip code" to account for ocean, lake, or desert by moving it 'in-land', then please do so but include the new numbers.
Seattle may have *WAY* more people than Providence or Milwaukee at a 10 mile radius or a 314 square mile area. However, this tread is about a 4 mile radius or a 50 square mile area, and both older cities have very dense downtown areas.
Milwaukee doesn't have a denser downtown area than Seattle. Your center for Seattle in the waterfront/Pioneer Square area of Seattle is leading to a massive undercounting. The center of Seattle is much more north than that. What's clear to me is you have never been to Seattle nor Milwaukee for any decent length of time. And I'm not sure your calculation is accounting for the water problem that is Seattle and Miami. Like I said earlier, Seattle is surrounded by water in all 4 directions.
Ok, I found Seattle's number increases by nearly 100K if I move to a zip code a little north - 98103. I still think the water issue puts Seattle at a disadvantage. I tried to pick a zip code that would cover a little less water and Seattle jumped to number 8. Here's the new list:
1) NYC (pop 1,997,622 & zip 11211)
2) Chicago (pop 831,738 & zip 60612)
3) Boston (pop 713,858 & zip 02116)
4) Philadelphia (pop 680,939 & zip 19123)
5) San Francisco (pop 658,482 & zip 94102)
6) Washington, DC (pop 551,330 & zip 20005)
7) Los Angeles (pop 542,383 & zip 90221) 8) Seattle (pop 410,174 & zip 98103)
9) Baltimore (pop 405,989 & zip 21201)
10) Miami (pop 396,418 & zip 33128)
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11) Minneapolis (pop 348,762 & zip 55402)
12) Denver (pop 335,403 & zip 80202)
13) Providence (pop 325,689 & zip 02903)
14) Milwaukee (pop 322,034 & zip 53201)
15) San Diego (pop 310,506 & zip 92101)
16) Houston (pop 2179,138 & zip 77002)
17) Austin (pop 254,770 & zip 78701)
18) Dallas (pop 249,322 & zip 75202)
19) Atlanta (pop 249,321 & zip 30303)
20) Detroit (pop 219,087 & zip 48202)
21) Hartford (pop 215,108 & zip 06103)
22) Charlotte (pop 161,708 & zip 28202)
23) Nashville (pop 156,562 & zip 37203)
Milwaukee doesn't have a denser downtown area than Seattle. Your center for Seattle in the waterfront/Pioneer Square area of Seattle is leading to a massive undercounting. What's clear to me is you have never been to Seattle nor Milwaukee for any decent length of time. And I'm not sure your calculation is accounting for the water problem that is Seattle and Miami. Like I said earlier, Seattle is surrounded by water in all 4 directions.
*Exasperated*
Then what's the most populated 4 mile radius circle for Seattle and Milwaukee?? The OP asked for "population density within 50 square miles". Surely that didn't mean "most populated, 1-mi-wide & 50-mile-long squiggly line"..
Long suburbs don't help cities in this comparison. Only densely populated ones do.
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Originally Posted by Vincent_Adultman
Ok, I found Seattle's number increases by nearly 100K if I move to a zip code a little north - 98103.
Nice! Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Guineas
What's clear to me is you have never been to Seattle nor Milwaukee for any decent length of time.
I SAID that I hadn't been to most of the cities, and encouraged everyone else to correct me! What more do you want!?
Last edited by Boston Shudra; 10-06-2020 at 11:48 PM..
Then what's the most populated 4 mile radius circle for Seattle or Milwaukee then?? The OP asked for "population density within 50 square miles". Surely that didn't mean "most populated, 1-mi-wide squiggly line"..
Did you see my post above? Seattle jumps nearly 100K when you switch to the 98103 zip code and moves to number 8. I still think the water issue put it at a disadvantage compared to a city like LA though,
50 square miles equates to a 4 mile radius circle.
Using this tool, here are the following cities ranked by "population within a 4 mile radius of the given zip code" using the "Let CAPS decide based on smallest radius" feature.
1) NYC (pop 1,997,622 & zip 11211)
2) Chicago (pop 831,738 & zip 60612)
3) Boston (pop 713,858 & zip 02116)
4) Philadelphia (pop 680,939 & zip 19123)
5) San Francisco (pop 658,482 & zip 94102)
6) Washington, DC (pop 551,330 & zip 20005)
7) Los Angeles (pop 542,383 & zip 90221)
8) Baltimore (pop 405,989 & zip 21201)
9) Miami (pop 396,418 & zip 33128)
10) Minneapolis (pop 348,762 & zip 55402)
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11) Denver (pop 335,403 & zip 80202)
12) Providence (pop 325,689 & zip 02903)
13) Seattle (pop 323,598 & zip 98101)
14) Milwaukee (pop 322,034 & zip 53201)
15) San Diego (pop 310,506 & zip 92101)
16) Houston (pop 2179,138 & zip 77002)
17) Austin (pop 254,770 & zip 78701)
18) Dallas (pop 249,322 & zip 75202)
19) Atlanta (pop 249,321 & zip 30303)
20) Detroit (pop 219,087 & zip 48202)
21) Hartford (pop 215,108 & zip 06103)
22) Charlotte (pop 161,708 & zip 28202)
23) Nashville (pop 156,562 & zip 37203)
For a lot of the cities, I looked with my untrained eye at the Google Maps satellite view and decided "this looks about right" to determine the center zip code. If you find a higher value for a different zip code for a listed city or you want to add a city to the list using the same tool and the same parameters (4mi radius & let CAPS decide), then feel free to update my ranking with the new numbers.
Know that I will fact check you, though.
There's a whole lot of Biscayne Bay within a 4 mile radius of 33128. Miami proper has 70,000+ additional people in only its 36 square miles alone. Using this method to get to 50 square miles with a lower population is just laughable. Just adding Miami Beach's ~8 square miles and nearly 90K people gets "Miami" to only 44 square miles and a population greater than in DC's 50 square miles circle. San Francisco suffers a similar fate with a lot of its "area" being in the SF Bay. There are probably others with an inordinate amount of water in their circles if I wanted to spend the time go down the entire list. Certainly there are cities that cross rivers and smaller bodies of water, but this is not a useful metric for cities that hug large bodies of water with their densest populations.
The whole idea that these comparisons need to be done with circles is fundamentally flawed.
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