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Old 10-06-2020, 02:24 PM
 
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Naw those are 2019 numbers
Oh, my bad - I thought someone said it was 2014.
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Old 10-06-2020, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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We've discussed this ad-nauseum already in another thread.

DC is already 705k in 48 sq mi.

"Factoring out water area, NPS parkland, and military base area yields this remaining land area for each quadrant:

Northwest: 22.33 square miles. 46.1% of the city’s land total. 76.4% of the quadrant’s total area.
Northeast: 13.62 square miles. 28.1% of the city’s land total. 87.8% of the quadrant’s total area.
Southwest: 2.37 square miles. 4.9% of the city’s land total. 21.5% of the quadrant’s total area.
Southeast: 10.1 square miles. 20.9% of the city’s land total. 79.3% of the quadrant’s total area.

Total developable residential land in Washington DC= 48.42 sq mi
"

https://ggwash.org/view/75134/how-mu...f-the-district

So yes to answer your question you can, and do get to this population in DC.
We've discussed this ad-nauseum already in another thread.

Boston is 695k in 36 square miles excluding parkland and the airport.

but we live in the real world and we dont get to chop out parkland haphazardly to make a point.
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Old 10-06-2020, 02:32 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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We've discussed this ad-nauseum already in another thread.

Boston is 695k in 36 square miles excluding parkland and the airport.

but we live in the real world and we dont get to chop out parkland haphazardly to make a point.
Great, put it on a chart or a graph and share it with us. Going forward though we can just address DC as 48 sq mi of "developable" land.
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Old 10-06-2020, 02:35 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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If we are talking straight up structural urbanity/density.. it’s going to be the usual suspects

NYC
Chicago
Philly/SF
DC
Boston/LA
Seattle/Baltimore
Miami

If it’s population density... it’s still probably the same list just rearranged due to administrative limits
If structural density is the argument, then no way should Baltimore be that low. Baltimore is top 5 in that regard.
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Old 10-06-2020, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Great, put it on a chart or a graph and share it with us. Going forward though we can just address DC as 48 sq mi of "developable" land.
None of that’s necessary. Boston is 20% parkland and 4 square miles of airport. It’s all in the thread you’re referencing and likely grabbed your prior post text from.

695k in 36 square miles add Quincy MA to the south (not even close to the the densest Suburban city outside of Boston) and that’s another 93k over 14 square miles (5 of which is parkland).

So that’s 790k in 50 square miles (or 45).
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Old 10-06-2020, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Even if we are doing city limits, a horrible horrible measure of urbanity, Boston is still far more dense and urban that DC lol.

Just adding the neighboring core towns to equal the same size as DC, just makes it even MORE dense.
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Old 10-06-2020, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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None of that’s necessary. Boston is 20% parkland and 4 square miles of airport. It’s all in the thread you’re referencing and likely grabbed your prior post text from.

695k in 36 square miles add Quincy MA to the south (not even close to the the densest Suburban city outside of Boston) and that’s another 93k over 14 square miles (5 of which is parkland).

So that’s 790k in 50 square miles (or 45).
About 1/2 of Quincy City limits are the Blue Hills and State Parks.
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Old 10-06-2020, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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By 50 sq mi around core:

1. New York
2. Chicago
3. San Francisco
4t: Philadelphia
4t: Boston
6. Los Angeles
7. Washington DC
8. Miami
9. Seattle
10. Baltimore

By 300sq mile around the core:
1. New York
2. Chicago
3. Los Angeles
4. San Francisco
5. Philadelphia
6. Boston
7. Washington DC
8. Miami
9. Seattle
10. Baltimore or Denver, not too sure.
While I agree with the first list. For the 2nd list theirs's no way Houston, Dallas and Miami aren't in the top 10 or top 5 (Miami) for 300 square miles. They make it up by having significantly denser outer areas than the majority of the list after San Francisco.
For Example an area that's 275 square miles (it didn't originally include the less dense parts of the inner loop, I added the rest of the inner loop to make it ~300) in Houston which includes The Inner Loop+ SW Houston+ Mission Bend+ Spring Branch+ Inwood+ GOOF+ Edgebrook+ Park Place+ Golfcrest+ South Park+ Sunnyside+ South Main+ South Houston.

Has roughly 1,700,000 in the 300 square miles above, which is pretty close to 6,000 ppsm.
I'm sure coastal Miami has 2,000,000 or pretty close to that.

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Old 10-06-2020, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Seattle aka tier 3 city :)
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By 50 sq mi around core:

1. New York
2. Chicago
3. San Francisco
4: Philadelphia
5: Los Angeles
6. Boston
7. Washington DC
8. Miami
9. Baltimore
10. San Diego

By 300sq mile around the core:
1. New York
2. Los Angeles
3. Chicago
4. Philadelphia
5. San Francisco
6. Miami
7. Washington DC
8. San Diego
9. Phoenix
10. Houston/Dallas.
Fixed it for you

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Old 10-06-2020, 05:37 PM
 
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Oh, my bad - I thought someone said it was 2014.
Wait - I was looking at the other chart. Now I see the 2019 data.

It looks like the overall % in multi-family housing has increased but the "missing middle" situation in Seattle has gotten worse.

Now Seattle is at 39% SFH, 37% in a 20+ unit building (that's up from 30% in 2014), and 23% in missing middle housing.

Boston, in comparison is 11% SFH, 26% 20+ unit building, and 63% missing middle housing. (In Boston it's clearly not missing.)
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