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View Poll Results: Best metros for blacks outside the South?
NYC/NJ/CT 41 25.95%
Chicago 16 10.13%
Los Angeles 19 12.03%
Detroit 13 8.23%
Philadelphia 31 19.62%
Bay Area 0 0%
Boston 8 5.06%
St. Louis 5 3.16%
Boston 1 0.63%
Other 24 15.19%
Voters: 158. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-14-2020, 02:36 PM
 
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From that list, Boston, Philly, and maybe Seattle seem to be the best options for black families/professionals.
Just curious. why Seattle over Phoenix, Denver, or Indy?
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Old 11-14-2020, 05:22 PM
 
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The 8 metros with the largest black population gain outside of the South are:


1.Minneapolis
2.Las Vegas
3.Phoenix
4.Boston
5.Indianapolis
6.Seattle
7.Denver
8.Philadelphia

I chose 8 because you put 8 metros on here.

So in my opinion outside of the south, those are the most desirable black metros right now. Vote with feet. Pretty straightforward. The one "black city" of the 8 is last. These are all metros are doing well for themselves. I think it would make sense they're doing at least pretty well for African Americans. If not in the core city, then in the suburbs (thinking of Seattle here).

Of those Vegas, Boston and Minneapolis have seen the overall black share of the population rise the most.
The thing to consider is that a lot of mid sized areas next to bigger/major areas tend to do well. Besides the NY example, Riverside outside of the LA area and Vallejo in the North Bay Area are a couple that have a decent black population and black median household incomes above the national figure in that regard. Same for the Bridgeport CT area near NYC and I believe Trenton. Other areas like Worcester and Allentown PA have lower percentages, but visible and steadily growing black populations with an above average median household income for those metro communities, while being close to major metros as well. So, that is another trend to keep in mind with this topic.
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Old 11-15-2020, 11:15 AM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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Just curious. why Seattle over Phoenix, Denver, or Indy?
I think Boston and Philly are clearly on another tier than those four; I only chose Seattle because median incomes are higher, lower poverty, and more urban environment. Willing to be convinced otherwise though.
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Old 11-15-2020, 12:25 PM
 
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Denver is interesting in that it is a city that has had a couple of black mayors within the past 30 years. Aurora, the 2nd biggest city in the state and at about 17% black has a black median household income above the national figure, if I’m not mistaken.
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Old 11-15-2020, 06:19 PM
 
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Denver is interesting in that it is a city that has had a couple of black mayors within the past 30 years. Aurora, the 2nd biggest city in the state and at about 17% black has a black median household income above the national figure, if I’m not mistaken.
To be specific, the figure is $60,946 according to the 2019 US Census 1 year estimate and $50,609 according to the 2018 US Census 5 year estimates.
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Old 11-15-2020, 08:49 PM
 
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The thing to consider is that a lot of mid sized areas next to bigger/major areas tend to do well. Besides the NY example, Riverside outside of the LA area and Vallejo in the North Bay Area are a couple that have a decent black population and black median household incomes above the national figure in that regard. Same for the Bridgeport CT area near NYC and I believe Trenton. Other areas like Worcester and Allentown PA have lower percentages, but visible and steadily growing black populations with an above average median household income for those metro communities, while being close to major metros as well. So, that is another trend to keep in mind with this topic.
The bolded is a good candidate, as the city itself is a little over 21% black and has a black median household income of $62,816(2019 estimate). Ciy council: https://www.cityofvallejo.net/city_h...__city_council

Suisun City also in that metro is 20.6% and has a community median hosusehold income just under $60,000($59,935, 2018 5 year estimate). Suisun City's mayor: https://www.suisun.com/government/ci...r-lori-wilson/
Mayor Pro Tem: https://www.suisun.com/councilmember-wanda-williams/

Adjacent Fairfield is 14.5% and has a community median household income of $69,450(2019 estimate). That city's vice mayor: City of Fairfield, CA - Vice-Mayor Pam Bertani

Some information about the metro area/county: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...ano-county-ca/ (13.6% according to US Census 2019 estimates)

Its black poverty rate is 17.8%, which puts it in between the national and black national rates and its black median household income is $64,514.

So, this appears to be another smaller area near a major metro area that has favorable metrics.

Just to add, it also has a military presence in the metro due to Travis Air Force Base. So, this is also another example where the military presence aspect comes into play.

It is also in a location not only in the Bay Area, but parts of it are actually closer to Sacramento. So, people could work in that area and take in what that area has to offer as well.

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Old 11-16-2020, 07:00 AM
 
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^ To answer the aspect of influence/culture, etc., this pretty famous rapper is from Vallejo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-40

Also, for those You Tube and are into the barber game, this barber in Vacaville(also in the metro), has had a pretty big influence online: https://www.youtube.com/c/360Jeezy

https://m.facebook.com/ThreesixtyJeezy/
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Old 11-16-2020, 08:17 AM
 
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Some more from the Poughkeepsie area...

This venture capitalist and inventor is originally from the town of Poughkeepsie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mc13OM3nWM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_O._Matthews
https://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/...ot/6044971002/
https://hvmag.com/life-style/jessica...-poughkeepsie/

This actor and director was also born and raised in Poughkeepsie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Duke

This woman was the first black woman judge in the US and also born in Poughkeepsie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Bolin
Family info: https://dchsny.org/bolins-on-race/

Also from that metro on the other side of the Hudson River, this woman was one of the founders of Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority and was born and raised in Cornwall(in between Newburgh and West Point/Highland Falls): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Josephine_Terry

So, this metro had founders of 2 black collegiate sororities. The other example: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...omi-richardson
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/159526011776023056/ (a park in that village is named after her)

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Old 11-16-2020, 03:48 PM
 
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In terms of the Chicago area, it looks like there is some movement into Will County. It is a county that is about 11.2% black and the community median household income is $56,111, with a poverty rate of 17.7%(2019 estimates). Places like University Park(85.9%, $56,849 and 8.1%), Crete(32.5%, $93,384 and 0.5%), Monee(19.6%, $68,199 and 4.2%), Bolingbrook(19%, $67,097 and 27.3%(?) and Joliet(16.9%, $52,331 and 17.5) are some communities in the county with a substantial middle class population.

Will County Executive: https://www.willcountyillinois.com/County-Executive
https://www.willcountyboard.com/board-members.html

University Park's mayor: Welcome to University Park, IL
Board of Trustees: Welcome to University Park, IL

Joliet council: https://www.joliet.gov/government/city-council

Monee clerk: https://villageofmonee.org/242/Village-Clerk

Bolingbrook: https://www.bolingbrook.com/officials

Romeoville clerk: https://www.romeoville.org/649/Villa...ice-E-Holloway


As for another area, the Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario metro is about 8.4%, with the Riverside County portion is 7.3% with a poverty rate of 14.4% and a black median household income of $68,465. San Bernardino County numbers are 9.4%, 20% and $53,021. Places like Rialto(12.2%, 8.2% and $69,679), Loma Linda(12.2%, 10.1% and $54,042) and Moreno Valley(18.2%, 15.3% and $54,289) are a few places in that metro with a substantial middle class. Rancho Cucamonga and Perris are just under 10%, but have generally middle class communities as well.

Moreno Valley: City Council Members & Districts

Rialto: https://www.yourrialto.com/city-hall/city-council/

San Bernardino: City of San Bernardino - City Council

Perris: https://www.cityofperris.org/Home/Co...irectory/4/173
https://www.cityofperris.org/Home/Co...irectory/8/173

Rancho Cucamonga: https://www.cityofrc.us/directory/lynne-b-kennedy

Fontana's mayor: https://www.fontana.org/2788/Mayor

Adelanto: https://www.ci.adelanto.ca.us/321/Co...evevonna-Evans

Barstow: https://www.barstowca.org/government...ouncil-members

Riverside County's District 3: https://rivcodistrict3.org/meet-chuck-staff
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Old 11-16-2020, 04:15 PM
 
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In terms of the Chicago area, it looks like there is some movement into Will County. It is a county that is about 11.2% black and the community median household income is $56,111, with a poverty rate of 17.7%(2019 estimates). Places like University Park(85.9%, $56,849 and 8.1%), Crete(32.5%, $93,384 and 0.5%), Monee(19.6%, $68,199 and 4.2%), Bolingbrook(19%, $67,097 and 27.3%(?) and Joliet(16.9%, $52,331 and 17.5) are some communities in the county with a substantial middle class population.

Will County Executive: https://www.willcountyillinois.com/County-Executive
https://www.willcountyboard.com/board-members.html

University Park's mayor: Welcome to University Park, IL
Board of Trustees: Welcome to University Park, IL

Joliet council: https://www.joliet.gov/government/city-council

Monee clerk: https://villageofmonee.org/242/Village-Clerk

Bolingbrook: https://www.bolingbrook.com/officials

Romeoville clerk: https://www.romeoville.org/649/Villa...ice-E-Holloway
I've noticed this before as well. I'm aware that the city itself is losing blacks, but can't remember if there was any data about the metro as a whole . Chicagoland still has one of the largest concentrations of blacks in the country. I don't think it's time to pull the plug on Chi-town just yet
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