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I'm a geography nerd and I won't know where Nyack or Rye...much less Hyde Park (The one in London you mean ) or Seaside Heights are...and definitely not Valley Stream or Saddle River. Pearl River? Scarsdale? Ridgewood? Englewood (You mean the neighborhood in Chicago? )
Newark, Jersey City, Hoboken, or even Yonkers, sure. White Plains and Newburgh? If not for the airports there I would not know them. Secaucus? I only know that b/c I'm somewhat of a rail nerd.
Trenton nobody would think as "NYC satellite city", nor really New Haven.
More seriously, I can definitely count at least half of the city on your list nobody would know about unless they're from the NYC area.
Yep. Most people would not care that Beverly Hills is an independent city...they probably heard of the name but think it's a neighborhood of LA most likely.
Not surprising given Mulholland Dr or Bel Air are part of City of LA. You're telling me somebody that doesn't look at a map would know East Hollywood and Hollywood are neighborhoods of LA but West Hollywood is an independent city? Probably not...
Seaside Heights is where Jersey Shore was filmed. Rye, Scarsdale, Saddle River, & Ridgewood are all very well known in the NYC area & have a reputation as some of the most elite & exclusive suburbs in the US, along with Alpine, Scarsdale, Greenwich, Short Hills, the North Shore of Long Island, Franklin Lakes & Montclair which were also listed. All of these areas have been home to numerous wealthy celebrities. Englewood/Englewood Cliffs features one of the best downtowns in Bergen County, some of the most exclusive suburban areas directly on the Hudson, plus the North American/world headquarters of several large companies, including LG & CNBC. Pearl River has the 3rd largest St Patrick’s day parade in the US. Nyack is on the Rockland County side of the Tappan Zee Bridge and features a walkable downtown with a great selection of restaurants, with some of the most beautiful views of the Hudson River nearby.
Maybe some of these cities are more well-known to East Coasters, I’ll grant you that. I could’ve cut the list down a bit. But the point is North/Central Jersey, Westchester, the Hudson Valley, Long Island and Southern Connecticut all have numerous significant & culturally relevant areas.
How about Burbank, where the most popular late night show in history was broadcast for 50 years?
Not Newport Beach, the setting of a wildly popular television show? How about Laguna Beach? Huntington Beach?
They wouldn't have heard of Compton-a suburb that has an entire merchandising industry based on its name?
If "east coasters" aren't recognizing those names, they should be aware that the rest of the world does.
Between Chicago, Boston, Baltimore, and Philadelphia you have about 20 million living outside of the main cities in the metro areas.
Good luck finding a single person not from those regions who can name a city in those areas other than the main cities.
Have to say I think Lexington, Concord, Plymouth and Salem are all quite well know. Cambridge is up there as well, certainly above Carlsbad or Huntington Beach
Have to say I think Lexington, Concord, Plymouth and Salem are all quite well know. Cambridge is up there as well, certainly above Carlsbad or Huntington Beach
Not to mention Marblehead, Worcester, Providence, Brookline, Lowell, Newport and Manchester
Not to mention Marblehead, Worcester, Providence, Brookline, Lowell, Newport and Manchester
Now you're just listing cities just to list them lol.. alright here's ones in LA county alone.
Acton
Adams-Normandie
Agoura Hills
Agua Dulce
Alhambra
Alondra Park
Altadena
Antelope Acres
Arcadia
Arleta
Arlington Heights
Artesia
Athens
Atwater Village
Avalon
Avocado Heights
Azusa
Baldwin Hills
Baldwin Park
Bandini
Bassett
Bel Air
Bell
Bell Gardens
Bellflower
Beverly Crest
Beverly Glen
Beverly Grove
Beverly Hills
Beverlywood
Bouquet Canyon
Boyle Heights
Bradbury
Brentwood
Broadway-Manchester
Burbank
Calabasas
Canoga Park
Canyon Country
Carson
Carthay
Castaic
Central Avenue
Cerritos
Charter Oak
Chatsworth
Chinatown
Citrus
City of Industry
Claremont
Commerce
Compton
Covina
Crenshaw
Crystalaire
Cudahy
Culver City
Del Aire
Del Sur
Diamond Bar
Downey
Duarte
Eagle Rock
East Los Angeles
East Pasadena
East Rancho Dominguez
East San Gabriel
Echo Park
El Camino Village
El Monte
El Segundo
El Sereno
Elizabeth Lake
Encino
Expo Park
Fairmont
Firestone Park
Florence
Gardena
Glassell Park
Glendale
Glendora
Gorman
Graham
Granada Hills
Green Meadows
Green Valley
Hacienda Heights
Hancock Park
Harbor City
Hawaiian Gardens
Hawthorne
Hermosa Beach
Hi Vista
Hidden Hills
Highland Park
Hollywood
Huntington Park
Inglewood
Irwindale
Juniper Hills
Kagel Canyon
Kinneloa Mesa
Koreatown
La Canada Flintridge
La Crescenta
La Habra Heights
La Mirada
La Puente
La Verne
Ladera Heights
Lake Balboa
Lake Hughes
Lake Los Angeles
Lake View Terrace
Lakewood
Lancaster
Lawndale
Lennox
Leona Valley
Lincoln Heights
Littlerock
Llano
Lomita
Long Beach
Los Angeles
Los Feliz
Los Nietos
Lynwood
Malibu
Manhattan Beach
Mar Vista
Marina Del Rey
Maywood
Mid-Wilshire
Mint Canyon
Miracle Mile
Mission Hills
Monrovia
Monte Nido
Montebello
Montecito Heights
Monterey Park
Montrose
Mount Washington
Newhall
North El Monte
North Hills
North Hollywood
North Whittier
Northeast Antelope Valley
Northridge
Northwest Palmdale
Norwalk
Pacific Palisades
Pacoima
Palmdale
Palms
Palos Verdes Estates
Palos Verdes Peninsula
Panorama City
Paramount
Pasadena
Pearblossom
Pico Rivera
Pico-Robertson
Pico-Union
Playa Del Rey
Playa Vista
Pomona
Porter Ranch
Quartz Hill
Ramona
Rancho Dominguez
Rancho Palos Verdes
Rancho Park
Redondo Beach
Reseda
Rolling Hills
Rolling Hills Estates
Rosemead
Rowland Heights
San Dimas
San Fernando
San Gabriel
San Marino
San Pasqual
San Pedro
Santa Clarita
Santa Fe Springs
Santa Monica
Sawtelle
Shadow Hills
Sherman Oaks
Sierra Madre
Signal Hill
Silver Lake
South El Monte
South Gate
South Park
South Pasadena
South San Gabriel
South San Jose Hills
South Whittier
Southeast Antelope Valley
Stevenson Ranch
Studio City
Sun Valley
Sun Village
Sunland
Sylmar
Tarzana
Temple City
Toluca Lake
Topanga
Torrance
Tujunga
Tujunga Canyons
Unincorporated Catalina Island
Unincorporated Santa Monica Mountains
Universal City
University Park
Val Verde
Valencia
Valinda
Valley Glen
Valley Village
Valyermo
Van Nuys
Venice
Verdugo City
Vermont Knolls
Vermont Square
Vermont Vista
Vermont-Slauson
Vernon
View Park-Windsor Hills
Vincent
Walnut
Walnut Park
Watts
West Athens
West Carson
West Compton
West Covina
West Hills
West Hollywood
West Los Angeles
West Puente Valley
West Whittier
Westchester
Westlake
Westlake Village
Westmont
Westwood
Whittier
Willowbrook
Wilmington
Winnetka
Woodland Hills
The only place that's really known is New York City the city. Long Island the island itself with an alcoholic drink named after it and any city with Jersey in it's name is pretty obvious at that point. That's about it.
Yea New York is the most famous and iconic part of its metropolitan area. Duh. Jus
But first off, put some respect on Jersey’s name. Urbanized North Jersey, the area of contiguous high-density urban development between Linden in the Southwest, Paterson in the Northwest, Fort Lee in the Northeast and Bayonne in the Southeast with the only break in development being the Meadowlands would be the 4th largest city in the US with 2.41 million people in 198 sq miles, making it comparable to Chicago & Philadelphia by itself. Cities like Hoboken and Jersey City feature some of the most desirable urbanist neighborhoods the US outside of Manhattan. And separate from its dense central core, the rest of North Jersey is loaded with some of the most expensive and desirable suburbs in the US. North Jersey gets ragged on a lot but it is a vital subregion of one of the most important economic regions in not only the country, but the world. Long Island is where suburbs actually started and has multiple iconic areas. The Hamptons? Montauk? The North Shore? I’m sorry if you never heard of these places from your California bubble but these are actually very well-known places to a giant number of people. On top of this, there is Westchester, Connecticut, Central Jersey, the Jersey Shore and the Hudson Valley, each of which have unique identities and several significant areas.
Yea New York is the most famous and iconic part of its metropolitan area. Duh. Jus
But first off, put some respect on Jersey’s name. Urbanized North Jersey, the area of contiguous high-density urban development between Linden in the Southwest, Paterson in the Northwest, Fort Lee in the Northeast and Bayonne in the Southeast with the only break in development being the Meadowlands would be the 4th largest city in the US with 2.41 million people in 198 sq miles, making it comparable to Chicago & Philadelphia by itself. Cities like Hoboken and Jersey City feature some of the most desirable urbanist neighborhoods the US outside of Manhattan. And separate from its dense central core, the rest of North Jersey is loaded with some of the most expensive and desirable suburbs in the US. North Jersey gets ragged on a lot but it is a vital subregion of one of the most important economic regions in not only the country, but the world. Long Island is where suburbs actually started and has multiple iconic areas. The Hamptons? Montauk? The North Shore? I’m sorry if you never heard of these places from your California bubble but these are actually very well-known places to a giant number of people. On top of this, there is Westchester, Connecticut, Central Jersey, the Jersey Shore and the Hudson Valley, each of which have unique identities and several significant areas.
Sorry dude, if it's not ringing bells in my California bubble then it's honestly not as cracked up to be like it is in your head. Then again, I forgot NYC'er still think the Sun revolves around them so I understand what position you're coming from.
Sorry dude, if it's not ringing bells in my California bubble then it's honestly not as cracked up to be like it is in your head. Then again, I forgot NYC'er still think the Sun revolves around them so I understand what position you're coming from.
Well that doesn’t change the fact that from an urbanist perspective, NYC’s surrounding areas, particularly North Jersey & South Westchester, are more urban than most other core cities, and that’s what this thread was initially about. LA doesn’t have 2 satellite cities that each have their own independent transportation system the way Newark & Jersey City/Hudson County each have their own light rail. In addition to both being served by PATH
& for what it’s worth, yea NYC actually is a level above every other city in North America. LA can be #2, but New York is, has been, and will continue to be #1. And even if you or the people in your California bubble don’t respect the East Coast’s prestigious suburbs, a lot of people do and are willing to pay exorbitant prices to live in them, even without the benefit of a Mediterranean LA climate.
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Well that doesn’t change the fact that from an urbanist perspective, NYC’s surrounding areas, particularly North Jersey & South Westchester, are more urban than most other core cities, and that’s what this thread was initially about. LA doesn’t have 2 satellite cities that each have their own independent transportation system the way Newark & Jersey City/Hudson County each have their own light rail. In addition to both being served by PATH
& for what it’s worth, yea NYC actually is a level above every other city in North America. LA can be #2, but New York is, has been, and will continue to be #1. And even if you or the people in your California bubble don’t respect the East Coast’s prestigious suburbs, a lot of people do and are willing to pay exorbitant prices to live in them, even without the benefit of a Mediterranean LA climate.
Also from an urbanist perspective:
NYC metro outside NYC is less densely populated than metro Phoenix.
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) or Seaside Heights are...and definitely not Valley Stream or Saddle River. Pearl River? Scarsdale? Ridgewood? Englewood (You mean the neighborhood in Chicago? 
