Gypsy graves at Spring Grove Cemetery (Cincinnati, Mason: live in, codes, discount)

[JACK SAWYER]

Originally Posted by mike1003

Pretty far back in left hand area... I do not have a map.

Look for Williamson, Reid, Johnston and Stewart. Many are red marble. Right by road. Just keep driving around, you should see the graves.

I don't know if floral arrangements survived the rain and wind.

those are all names of scottish travellers who came to this country in the 1800s...or gypsy's some call them!! there is a movie called the traveller that is about this topic..starring mark whalberg and bill paxton..it came out about 10 or 12 years ago!!

[salliesue]

People are people every where. you got to bury the dead. You guys have Nothing better to do then drive thru a grave yard..A japan lawn man came today to do my grass. I let him do the work. If My father was alive he would have had a Fit. He was a licence painter and A veteran in army lost his arm in ww2. He went to paint a house one time it was owned by a japan man. When he went to do the work guy acussed him of being a Gyspy. He called dad one of you guys. LMAO dad replied you bomb pearl harbor. Man said not me! Dad again replied It was One of you guys! lol. point is leave the dead alone. In all mankind forms there is good and bad.

[Cincy-Rise]

Originally Posted by salliesue

People are people every where. you got to bury the dead. You guys have Nothing better to do then drive thru a grave yard..A japan lawn man came today to do my grass. I let him do the work. If My father was alive he would have had a Fit. He was a licence painter and A veteran in army lost his arm in ww2. He went to paint a house one time it was owned by a japan man. When he went to do the work guy acussed him of being a Gyspy. He called dad one of you guys. LMAO dad replied you bomb pearl harbor. Man said not me! Dad again replied It was One of you guys! lol. point is leave the dead alone. In all mankind forms there is good and bad.

What in God's name are you talking about?!

Spring Grove is the nation's second largest privately owned cemetery. Not only that but it's extremely historic, an arboretum, final resting place of notables, home to 15 lakes, and a beautiful getaway in the middle of a city.

[JACK SAWYER]

In the movie there is a scene where they are at a cemetary and kinda tells you about it..but there is several cemetarys where they are burried,There is a estimated 50 thousand travellers in this country plus as many are more gypsy people..but there realy is no king of they gypsy's.thats all folk lore..but some will claim to be king when talking to a non gypsy..most of them are just business people now days..but there is a lot of cool history about the past!

[JefferyT]

So Cincy had gypsys too!

This is a well known (to history buffs) part of Daytons history. The Dayton area was apparently a gypsy rendezvous point, and apparently one or two clans actually owned property north of the city. Dayton's old cemetary, Woodland, has some gypsy graves, too.

When Dayton was Home to the Gypsies

...now these weren't the eastern European gypsies, but perhaps English ones (I've read somewhere that English gypys came to the US from the Norfolk/East Anglia area, and specialized in horse-trading) or those Travellers mentioned by Jack Sawyer.

People are still interested in this rather obscure bit of local lore as the library here had some special programs on the gypsy presence in the area.

[mike1003]

Made our annual drive through Spring Grove. All of the gypsy graves loaded with flours, balloons and other mementos. Not as much as years past, but still there. Will be left up until Thursday

[balaigne]

Gypsies are intriguing interesting people. Like any gruop who are not"mainstream" thier lives and history is very important. I enjoy the histroy and btw my grandfather was a horse trader.

[mike1003]

Search for "Beyond the Graves"


For some reason, I couldn't cut and paste the link and article???

[bjspeeg]

Concerning Spring Grove and the buried Gypsies:

I have been acquainted with Spring Grove for over a decade. The main reason you cannot get information from the authorities, people in charge, staff at SG.....is because burials, deaths, ceremonies, agendas and personal properties are just that.....Personal.

It is not in Spring Groves policy to indicate who is or isn't whomever one is looking for. They do not impart private information regarding any families, their deceased or their ceremonies. The records at Spring Grove are accessible. They are very straightforward, indicating facts only. Names, dates, types of deaths, certification.
There really isn't much room for the suggested, the indicated, or the speculation.

Sure, I have worked with some of the staff, they are well aware of the gypsy population using Spring Grove for burial. They are kinda quiet and private about such stuff.
They wouldn't give out information about anyone else though. We can all rest assured.

As for mention elsewhere, several times the now defunct FolkTimes used to rise up at Memorial Day and write about them. Some concerted research would very likely bring forth other writings and references on them.


I lived in Preble County, College Corner Ohio/Indiana as a child in the 1950's. In a small town, just up the street from our house in the middle of it, two properties up from our side yard, our neighbor rented his front yard to gypsies each summer. You can bet my eyes popped at that! I have been fascinated ever since. It was a sight to behold.

It was only in adulthood I was told they were part of a 'carnival' show on the outskirts of town.
The women would walk through the streets advertising to fix things, or mend clothing.
At night my brother and I could look right up the street at their campfires (they had some kind of "camper" things they slept in) and just beg for them to come get us so we could enjoy whatever it was they were doing!

[deg1114]

I saw this postcard right after I saw this post. I could spend a day on this site:

http://www.cincinnativiews.net/image...age-Gypsys.jpg