RACE: comparing suburb population & suburb public schools

[Kmanshouse]

The kids at Benet sure aren't hispanic.

[damba]

Originally Posted by edsg25

Actually mostly Chicago. But you would be right...that is not suburbia

The actual percentage, even in Chicago, may be lower than you think:

https://vencuentro.org/wp-content/up...Chicago-EN.pdf

[fusillirob1983]

Originally Posted by edsg25

While Catholic schools may be a factor, they have become more and more a dying breed. Besides, who do you think are in Catholic schools? Who are by far the largest group of Catholics and more overwhelmingly the most Catholic group of American children: Hispanics

Add to that a major demographic in Catholic schools: African American kids, usually not Catholic, whose parents think they will get a better education in Catholic schools than in public ones

I know this is a suburban thread, but as long as the subject is shifting a bit, most Southwest Side, South Side, SW Suburb and South Suburb Catholic school populations either are dropping, have plummeted, or have caused school closures with increases in Black and Hispanic populations. Hispanics lean more heavily Catholic, but in many instances, those famlies can't afford the higher cost compared to a free public school.

There are a few examples that I can think of, such as Mt. Carmel or St. Rita HS that essentially recruit for athletics, or Leo High School, which I believe receives funding from the archdiocese. St. Sabina is the one grammar school that comes to mind that tend to have been embraced by its community.

I could go on about a number of school closures, mergers or enrollment plumetting, but many are technically in the city.

As a couple others mentioned, there are majority Hispanic suburbs such as Berwyn and Cicero that have significant Hispanic populations in Catholic schools, but that is likely not the case when you venture into other suburbs.

[edsg25]

Originally Posted by fusillirob1983

I know this is a suburban thread, but as long as the subject is shifting a bit, most Southwest Side, South Side, SW Suburb and South Suburb Catholic school populations either are dropping, have plummeted, or have caused school closures with increases in Black and Hispanic populations. Hispanics lean more heavily Catholic, but in many instances, those famlies can't afford the higher cost compared to a free public school.

There are a few examples that I can think of, such as Mt. Carmel or St. Rita HS that essentially recruit for athletics, or Leo High School, which I believe receives funding from the archdiocese. St. Sabina is the one grammar school that comes to mind that tend to have been embraced by its community.

I could go on about a number of school closures, mergers or enrollment plumetting, but many are technically in the city.

As a couple others mentioned, there are majority Hispanic suburbs such as Berwyn and Cicero that have significant Hispanic populations in Catholic schools, but that is likely not the case when you venture into other suburbs.

The only religiously oriented school in the United States that is gaining enrollment rather than losing it would be My Own Home Sweet Home of Evangelically Inspired Home Schooling (for short: MOHSWEIHS)

[fusillirob1983]

Originally Posted by edsg25

The only religiously oriented school in the United States that is gaining enrollment rather than losing it would be My Own Home Sweet Home of Evangelically Inspired Home Schooling (for short: MOHSWEIHS)

Sure. My point was that you previously discussed the African American and Hispanic populations at Catholic schools, which I think is counter to what has actually happened. As White populations of various areas decreased, Catholic school enrollment plummeted.

[damba]

Originally Posted by fusillirob1983

sure. My point was that you previously discussed the african american and hispanic populations at catholic schools, which i think is counter to what has actually happened. As white populations of various areas decreased, catholic school enrollment plummeted.

110%

[edsg25]

Originally Posted by fusillirob1983

Sure. My point was that you previously discussed the African American and Hispanic populations at Catholic schools, which I think is counter to what has actually happened. As White populations of various areas decreased, Catholic school enrollment plummeted.

I'm in full agreement, Rob. Let's face it....main stream religions are a dying institution in today's America.

[fusillirob1983]

Originally Posted by edsg25

I'm in full agreement, Rob. Let's face it....main stream religions are a dying institution in today's America.

That certainly has something to do with it. Along similar lines, I think the stigma that public schools were generally worse than Catholic schools, which I'm guessing many Catholic Baby Boomers were told growing up, was disproven when they sent their kids to suburban public schools.

Throw in the increased cost per pupil at Catholic schools both due to generally rising tuition that exceeded inflation and a smaller remaining student body to cover the remaining costs, and voila, school closures.

[edsg25]

Originally Posted by fusillirob1983

That certainly has something to do with it. Along similar lines, I think the stigma that public schools were generally worse than Catholic schools, which I'm guessing many Catholic Baby Boomers were told growing up, was disproven when they sent their kids to suburban public schools.

Throw in the increased cost per pupil at Catholic schools both due to generally rising tuition that exceeded inflation and a smaller remaining student body to cover the remaining costs, and voila, school closures.

That is a great point when the era when parents with baby boomers made the big migration to the suburbs, suburban schools were quite possibly at their best and were the pride of their communities.

So few of the Catholic schools are left..mainly the very best, like Loyola Academy in Wilmette which more than holds its own being within New Trier’s boundaries