Why God cannot exist!
Posted 01-09-2013 at 08:25 AM by Carneades-SkepticGriggsy
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Originally Posted by Carneades-SkepticGriggsy
Big City Dreamer, yes, because as astrophysicist-atheologian Victor Stenger maintains when mountains of evidence should appear, and none does, then absence of evidence is indeed evidence of absence, and no argument from ignorance, I add. After millennia of offering misinterpretations of evidence, and like they never will give any, no God most probably exists. Besides, each argument in turn for Him fails and most naturalist arguments succeed, He ends up with no referents as Grand Miracle Monger, Creator and so forth that He cannot exist, and having contradictory and incoherent properties, He can no more exist than square circles or married bachelors! 
This is not through dogma but instead through analysis, thus we naturalists need not traverse the Cosmos nor have omniscience ourselves, and again, no argument from ignorance.
Dwight's serial argument is that should He be part of the series of causes, then He could not be the Creator or should He be outside the series, He cannot create. His history/contingency argument is that as that Necessary Being ,He'd be just a logical construct that He could not create or should some king of contingency apply to Him, again, He'd be incoherent.
Steele's timeless argument argues that should He be outside time, He could not create, and thus whilst WLC maintains that prior to Creation He was timeless, afterwards He became in time, that is wrong, because as timeless, He could not create.
WLC's Kalam also fails, because it begs the question of a starting point, its use of that library and that hotel are mere red herrings, the potential infinite is the actual one and by successive addition, none can reach infinity. With the hotel and the library, he conflates infinite mathematics with finite mathematics to make those herrings that do not portray contradictions in the notion of infinity that it could not exist- a double mistake. Thus, her errs with his distinction of actual with potential. The successive addition then does not help his argument but instead defeats it.
And with other theists, he accepts as facts what uncorroborated authors with their uncorroborated testimonies, and contradictions and false history, thus, his defense of the Resurrection cannot even start! And thus, no scriptures are revealed and authoritative and reliable. No only the Tanakh and the Testament but also the Bhagavad Vita, the Qur'an and all others.
Revelations and all other religious experience carry only the subjective contents of people's own minds, which vary so much that they cannot act inter-subjectively as would people's findings in science.
Carneades' atelic argument finds that intelligent design, arguments from reason, to design, probability and fine- tuning all beg the question of directed outcomes. Were there such,^ then scientists would not experiment, because all experiments would always carry the same directed outcomes, the future before the past, the effect before the cause, thereby negating time and making backwards causation.
Events happen instead consequently, each step permitting others to happen. Leucippus necessity rules, including randomness, which does not favor any matter. Remember that it took the cooling - off period, the flowering plants, the meteoroid that led to the demise of the dinosaurs and mutations to happen for us to evolve. No guiding hand had anything in the process to do, and so to assume that evolution is His manner of creating living beings is a false assumption, and thus, not compatible with science but instead contradicts it.
Thus, theistic evolution is just an oxy-moronic obfuscation!
So Lickety _Split's arguments carry no weight whatsoever! We have surpassed the level to know then that no guiding spirit can exist! We reached that level with Thales of Miletus and Strato of Lampsacus, millennia ago; but Aristotle, naturalist, failed us with his teleology added to explanations, throwing science behind the times. His own science hindered scientific advancement.
Remember that Lamberth's the teleonomic argument alone finds no referents for Him!
^ Paul B.Weisz "The Science of Biology"
This is not through dogma but instead through analysis, thus we naturalists need not traverse the Cosmos nor have omniscience ourselves, and again, no argument from ignorance.Dwight's serial argument is that should He be part of the series of causes, then He could not be the Creator or should He be outside the series, He cannot create. His history/contingency argument is that as that Necessary Being ,He'd be just a logical construct that He could not create or should some king of contingency apply to Him, again, He'd be incoherent.
Steele's timeless argument argues that should He be outside time, He could not create, and thus whilst WLC maintains that prior to Creation He was timeless, afterwards He became in time, that is wrong, because as timeless, He could not create.
WLC's Kalam also fails, because it begs the question of a starting point, its use of that library and that hotel are mere red herrings, the potential infinite is the actual one and by successive addition, none can reach infinity. With the hotel and the library, he conflates infinite mathematics with finite mathematics to make those herrings that do not portray contradictions in the notion of infinity that it could not exist- a double mistake. Thus, her errs with his distinction of actual with potential. The successive addition then does not help his argument but instead defeats it.
And with other theists, he accepts as facts what uncorroborated authors with their uncorroborated testimonies, and contradictions and false history, thus, his defense of the Resurrection cannot even start! And thus, no scriptures are revealed and authoritative and reliable. No only the Tanakh and the Testament but also the Bhagavad Vita, the Qur'an and all others.
Revelations and all other religious experience carry only the subjective contents of people's own minds, which vary so much that they cannot act inter-subjectively as would people's findings in science.
Carneades' atelic argument finds that intelligent design, arguments from reason, to design, probability and fine- tuning all beg the question of directed outcomes. Were there such,^ then scientists would not experiment, because all experiments would always carry the same directed outcomes, the future before the past, the effect before the cause, thereby negating time and making backwards causation.
Events happen instead consequently, each step permitting others to happen. Leucippus necessity rules, including randomness, which does not favor any matter. Remember that it took the cooling - off period, the flowering plants, the meteoroid that led to the demise of the dinosaurs and mutations to happen for us to evolve. No guiding hand had anything in the process to do, and so to assume that evolution is His manner of creating living beings is a false assumption, and thus, not compatible with science but instead contradicts it.
Thus, theistic evolution is just an oxy-moronic obfuscation!
So Lickety _Split's arguments carry no weight whatsoever! We have surpassed the level to know then that no guiding spirit can exist! We reached that level with Thales of Miletus and Strato of Lampsacus, millennia ago; but Aristotle, naturalist, failed us with his teleology added to explanations, throwing science behind the times. His own science hindered scientific advancement.
Remember that Lamberth's the teleonomic argument alone finds no referents for Him!
^ Paul B.Weisz "The Science of Biology"
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