Originally Posted by Carneades-SkepticGriggsy

Nozzferrahhyoo, I thank you and others for telling theists that they err!
Carneades' atelic argument notes that all teleological arguments- fine-tuning- probability, to design and from reason - beg the question of divinely directed outcomes.
My teleonomic argues that science finds no such outcomes, thereby ruling God out as that Grand Designer, Creator and all referents that use divine intent!
The puddle argument also refutes this silly argument. Putative God had no input to have

Originally Posted by Mossy

I am not familiar with Hwy. 26 so I don't know where that ends. I see the Max runs out to Hillsboro and I think there is a shuttle to Intel but I am not sure. How far is the West Hills to Hillsboro?

We wouldn't mind public schools at all but I see alot of cuts. I also like that Oregon has alot of alternative schools i.e. montessori and such so I am doing my homework but it is overwhleming. We would mind catholic schools either. I think we want to get away from suburbia. I never lived