What do all of the mass shootings have in common?
7-13-2022
Maniac control needed - time to restore forced treatment & institutionalization
5-27-2022
You're so right. I am hardly part of the gun culture. I am a suburban professional.
Normally I go to synagogue Friday night. I didn't tonight because I know we're in for another hectoring "sermon" about the need for gun control. Indeed, we were all sent an email from a retired Rabbi, excerpted below:
The first sentence was in bold, 36-point font. I know our sermon will echo this drivel. The Rabbis feel good telling their congregants they must support gun control. Let's make this clear; very few in the congregation have arms. They are big into masking also. In other words, typical theater.
Now let's talk about school "security." They had SWAT-like drills at the school. No doubt Parkland did as well. Still, they were theater because in the final analysis, the police would not go it. No one wants to discuss the real problem, mental health. In most cases the killers are in their late teens, early 20's. For the outcasts, inclusion, etc. should not be just empty words. They all too often are. Strange as it seems, "oddballs" must be included. My son, who is on the autistic spectrum, always has been. We'd rather talk about "gun control" and "school security" when we need to make inclusiveness real.
This, no one will talk about.
5-26-2022
More people have to know these "loose cannons." I am going to quote myself, : What do all of the mass shootings have in common?. I am quoting myself because I have received zero responses to my points and instead have read pages of pointless bickering. I previously stated:
There is another, almost totally ignored angle, on which I have written and OP'd before on this issue. See Charleston Demonstrates: You ARE Your Brother's Keeper; Mental Health, Not Guns, Root of Problem and Cruz & Condit, Austin & Parkland, Common Thread; Hint, Not Guns! among others. Excerpt:I came to be conscious of this issue with McGovern's cashiering of Eagleton as a candidate in the 1972 campaign. This sorry episode is part of what started my path away from believing that liberals are necessarily good people. I had thought they really believed in love, help and compassion before that. I was 15 at time, and had bought into the "peace, love and helping hand" myth the liberals and Democrats presented themselves as adhering to.
What is needed is genuine concern for and about outcasts, not pious speeches.
Maniac control needed - time to restore forced treatment & institutionalization
To me, the question is not the ability to purchase guns; it's the fact that those people were walking the streets, not in an institution or at the very least untreated. Ditto Salvdor Ramos, the Uvalde killer. See After Another Mass Shooting, Questions Loom About the Role of Parents (link), excerpt:Quote:Originally Posted by NY Times Article Excerpt(link to article) HIGHLAND PARK, Ill. — The man accused of killing seven people and wounding dozens of others in a shooting that terrorized a Fourth of July parade had been investigated by the local police before. Officers had responded in 2019 after someone reported that he had tried to kill himself. And they came to his home a few months later — seizing a knife collection — after a family member reported that he had pledged to “kill everyone.”*************
The sequence of events in Highland Park — in which law enforcement was told about a troubled young man, one who later acquired guns and was accused of using them to kill — was not unique. In the massacre at a high school in Parkland, Fla., in 2018, the F.B.I. received tips about the person who has pleaded guilty in the case, Nikolas Cruz, before the shooting occurred. And a judge ruled that the Air Force was mostly responsible for a mass shooting at a Texas church in 2017 because it had not entered the gunman’s domestic violence conviction into a federal database.
Google Ethan Crumbley, Michigan fifteen year old, where Mommy and Daddy bought him a gun for Christmas. This is not a gun-control issue or thread; it's people-control and treatment.Quote:Originally Posted by linked NY Times ArticleSome had spent months or years before attacks worrying about their sons’ mental health and seeking help in vain. But most do not alert the authorities before an attack, researchers say, and those parents can face scorn and accusations they ignored warning signs or even enabled attacks by allowing their sons to get ahold (sic) of deadly weapons.
5-27-2022
You're so right. I am hardly part of the gun culture. I am a suburban professional.
Normally I go to synagogue Friday night. I didn't tonight because I know we're in for another hectoring "sermon" about the need for gun control. Indeed, we were all sent an email from a retired Rabbi, excerpted below:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired Rabbi
Though nothing may come of our screaming about another mass shooting, “like Jeremiah of old, the cri de coeur that comes from anger and despair must still issue forth.”Columbine, Newtown, Parkland, Uvalde, and countless other massacres at schools have all been followed by the same infuriating and callous inaction. Even worse, absurd “solutions” are offered, with the sole intent of diverting attention from the appalling, but highly profitable, proliferation of virtually unregulated high-powered firearms. We have long since learned the woeful truth that there is no use imagining that “this time change will surely come.” Is there a point anymore, one may ask, in crying out in protest?
The first sentence was in bold, 36-point font. I know our sermon will echo this drivel. The Rabbis feel good telling their congregants they must support gun control. Let's make this clear; very few in the congregation have arms. They are big into masking also. In other words, typical theater.
Now let's talk about school "security." They had SWAT-like drills at the school. No doubt Parkland did as well. Still, they were theater because in the final analysis, the police would not go it. No one wants to discuss the real problem, mental health. In most cases the killers are in their late teens, early 20's. For the outcasts, inclusion, etc. should not be just empty words. They all too often are. Strange as it seems, "oddballs" must be included. My son, who is on the autistic spectrum, always has been. We'd rather talk about "gun control" and "school security" when we need to make inclusiveness real.
This, no one will talk about.
5-26-2022
More people have to know these "loose cannons." I am going to quote myself, : What do all of the mass shootings have in common?. I am quoting myself because I have received zero responses to my points and instead have read pages of pointless bickering. I previously stated:
There is another, almost totally ignored angle, on which I have written and OP'd before on this issue. See Charleston Demonstrates: You ARE Your Brother's Keeper; Mental Health, Not Guns, Root of Problem and Cruz & Condit, Austin & Parkland, Common Thread; Hint, Not Guns! among others. Excerpt:I came to be conscious of this issue with McGovern's cashiering of Eagleton as a candidate in the 1972 campaign. This sorry episode is part of what started my path away from believing that liberals are necessarily good people. I had thought they really believed in love, help and compassion before that. I was 15 at time, and had bought into the "peace, love and helping hand" myth the liberals and Democrats presented themselves as adhering to.
What is needed is genuine concern for and about outcasts, not pious speeches.
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