Bell Curve - Salat -Subliminal Messages
Posted 01-17-2016 at 10:24 PM by Continuum
By default of rationality there is no Perfection in the real practical world. However most of the variables in general obey the Laws of the Bell Curve and skewness are the exceptions which can be easily explained.
In the case of Muslims and Islam we are dealing with a large population of 1.5 billion so the margin of error is very slim.
My point of referring to the Bell Curve is to highlight the principle 'for every positive, there are equal negatives extending to the most extremes.' Therefore based on nature and norms there will good and evil prone Muslims along a continuum of % of the Bell Curve.
The 20% is not extracted based on its % of the Standard Deviation [sigma] but based on my best approximation of reality. The principle applicable to any large group of people is for every 20% of the best and good Muslims there will naturally be another 20% of the worst and evil prone Muslims.
My guess is very conservative as you will note from the various polls more than 20% of Muslims are very inclined to the negative aspects of Islam and Muslims' attitude.
My main points are;
1. Re Bell Curve, for every group of humans, in this case Muslims, there are a % [estimated 20%] of evil prone Muslims who are vulnerable to be influenced by subliminal evil laden messages from anywhere.
2. There exists a significant amount of evil laden elements in the Quran [the core of Islam].
3. The natural existence 1 [20% evil prone Muslims] and the presence of evil laden elements in the Quran facilitate the manifestations of terrible Islamic evils and violence around the world.
As I have always mentioned humanity must deal with ALL terrible evils and violence from wherever they originate. To deal with these terrible evils effectively we need to analyze them into various categories. One such category is by 'Country' and temperature, etc.
However we also need to analyze the evils and violence by other categories on a global basis in terms of race, religion, and the likes.
The critical point is as a matter of protocol we need to stick to topic which in this case in 'Religion & its Evil Manifestations.'
What I have done is to establish the appropriate hypothesis and prove it with evidences which I have done.
The conclusion is; Islam is inherently both good and evil. It evil element influence evil prone Muslims from the natural potential pool of 20% of evil prone Muslims [300 million] to commit terrible evils and violence.
Since the hypothesis is proven, we should then accept it and deal with it accordingly to find preventive measures to eliminate/reduce that source of evils and violence.
I correct my earlier point to 1:7 is the malignant verse which should be eliminated. 1:6 can be retained.
Your deflection of 1:7 is due to your inoculation theory driven by emotional and psychological biasness. As usual we need to interpret Chapter 1:1-7 in the whole context of the Quran, the whole of Islam and reality as it was when the Chapter came about.
I did not imply the malignant 1:7 by itself will drive Muslims to commit evil and violence.
Based on Noldeke Chronological order of the chapters of the Quran, I am also making my own adjustments to the Chronology of the Quran.
I believe Chapter 1 - Al Fatiha is a summary of the Mecca phase and thus would be the first chapter of the Medinian verses follow by Chapter 2 and ending with Chapter 9 or 110.
The point of Muhammad's anger [abhorrence] with the Jews and condemning the Christians as going astray is very obvious throughout the Mecca Phased of the Quran.
Muhammad was very angry with the Jews for omitting him [as the prophesized messenger] from their book, thus accused them of corrupting the holy texts. If the Jews has agreed and accepted him it would have been an easier path for Muhammad to be a messenger of God.
Muhammad condemned the Christians as astray for believing in Jesus as son of God and not recognizing his as the messenger [Ahmed in the Bible].
All throughout the Meccan phase of the Quran, Muhammad was very angry with the Jews, Christians, the Meccan and other idolators who do not give any recognition to his message. The non-Muslims mocked Muhammad after he insulted their religions. The kuffar [infidels] were condemned with the worst kind of derogatory terms and dehumanized like a piece of sh:t.
Such terrible condemnation and dehumanizing is represented by verse 1:7 in All Fatiha.
Frankly there is no need to include 1:7 [the evil of us versus them, condemnation of 'them'] at all if the Quran is a matured spiritual and religious texts. If the holy texts by itself is good it will naturally promote progress and spiritual growth.
"There is no need to blow the candle of others to shine one's own" [only the immature do this].
But Muhammad was so emotionally and psychological effected with anger that he could not resist adding verse 1:7 to condemn the Jews and Christians.
Btw, I presume you are aware of the danger of [B]subliminal messages[/B].
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_stimuli[/URL]
I suggest you read this point so that you understand what I am trying to arrive at with 1:7 and its related verses from the whole of the Quran
[INDENT][B]Subliminal stimuli[/B] ([URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English"][COLOR=#0066cc]/sʌbˈlɪmɨnəl[/COLOR][COLOR=#0066cc]/[/COLOR][/URL]; literally "below threshold"), contrary to [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Supraliminal_stimuli&action=edit&redlink=1"][COLOR=#0066cc]supraliminal stimuli[/COLOR][/URL] or "above threshold", are any sensory stimuli below an individual's [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_threshold"][COLOR=#0066cc]threshold[/COLOR][/URL] for conscious [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perception"][COLOR=#0066cc]perception[/COLOR][/URL]
A recent review of functional magnetic resonance imaging ([URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_magnetic_resonance_imaging"][COLOR=#0066cc]fMRI[/COLOR][/URL]) studies shows that subliminal stimuli activate specific regions of the brain despite participants being unaware.
Visual stimuli may be quickly flashed before an individual can process them, or flashed and then masked, thereby interrupting the processing. Audio stimuli may be played below audible volumes or masked by other stimuli.
[/INDENT]There was this case of an advertiser inserting subliminal message, e.g. "drink Coca Cola" in the movies but which not consciously perceive by the audience. The immediate response was suddenly many of the audience went to by Coca Cola. When this was discovered by the authorities, subliminal message adverting were officially banned.
[URL="http://www.psychologistworld.com/influence_personality/subliminalads.php"]Subliminal Advertising - Influence & Personality Psychology - Psychologist World[/URL]
[URL="http://www.umich.edu/~onebook/pages/frames/legalSet.html"]Subliminal Perception: Legal Issues[/URL]
In Australia and Britain, the use of subliminal advertising has been banned with severe consequences for those who disobey the strict laws.
Now verse 1:7 will not trigger any adverse reaction on the conscious level when one read Chapter 1.
However in the Salat verse 1:7 is repeated many times silently by the individual each day and Muslims are exposed to it from various source. In this sense verse 1:7 is transmitted as a subliminal message that will have a negative impact on a Muslim [especially the vulnerable evil prone Muslims from a pool of 300 million Muslims].
Why 1:7 is critical and malignant is when 1:7 is its context with the whole of the Quran with >55% of evil elements in the Quran of driving contempt against non-believers with the angry and martial ethos of Muhammad.
The proof of the above so glaringly evident from the terrible evils and violence from the evil prone Muslims that is happening all around the world.
Your view that the Quran is a guide to help a Muslim to understand Islam is very wrong and misleading.
To say the Quran is a guide and help a Muslim to understand is to go against the principles of Allah. What is critical are the [B]imperative principles[/B] and practices that must be complied. If it is merely a guide, then one can exercise discretions in every aspects, but that is not the case as there are imperative conditions as ordained by Allah in the Quran.
The fact is the Quran is the only and sole source of Allah's words and thus the central representation of Islam. The Quran contain various elements of Islam, i.e. the main Principles [doctrines], terms and conditions of the covenant, guides to rituals, practices, etc. good tidings, reminders, commands, instructions, etc. and whatever is necessary for one to be a Muslim.
In fact it is the Ahadiths which should be the guides and expositions that will help one to understand the practices of Islam. As a guide the Ahadiths do not carry any divine authority. To impute authority on the Ahadiths is blasphemy and corrupting the pure religion of Islam as convey by Allah via Gabriel to Muhammad.
As you said, the 5 times is based on the [B]Ahadiths solely as guidance[/B] and thus not an imperative. The problem is the majority take the 5 times as a command of Allah via Muhammad and cause all sorts of guilt and manifestation of evils re those who do not comply.
My point is the Salat is one element of the procedure of the generic prayers in any religious and spiritual practices.
Since the Salat ignorantly promote a malignant subliminal message via 1:7, these negative element need to be resolved and corrected.
Muslims need to understand the generic principles of 'prayer' in the spiritual process and take initiatives to advance improve this process [by real neural changes] where possible.
[quote=Continuum;42675078]Link[/quote]
In the case of Muslims and Islam we are dealing with a large population of 1.5 billion so the margin of error is very slim.
My point of referring to the Bell Curve is to highlight the principle 'for every positive, there are equal negatives extending to the most extremes.' Therefore based on nature and norms there will good and evil prone Muslims along a continuum of % of the Bell Curve.
The 20% is not extracted based on its % of the Standard Deviation [sigma] but based on my best approximation of reality. The principle applicable to any large group of people is for every 20% of the best and good Muslims there will naturally be another 20% of the worst and evil prone Muslims.
My guess is very conservative as you will note from the various polls more than 20% of Muslims are very inclined to the negative aspects of Islam and Muslims' attitude.
My main points are;
1. Re Bell Curve, for every group of humans, in this case Muslims, there are a % [estimated 20%] of evil prone Muslims who are vulnerable to be influenced by subliminal evil laden messages from anywhere.
2. There exists a significant amount of evil laden elements in the Quran [the core of Islam].
3. The natural existence 1 [20% evil prone Muslims] and the presence of evil laden elements in the Quran facilitate the manifestations of terrible Islamic evils and violence around the world.
As I have always mentioned humanity must deal with ALL terrible evils and violence from wherever they originate. To deal with these terrible evils effectively we need to analyze them into various categories. One such category is by 'Country' and temperature, etc.
However we also need to analyze the evils and violence by other categories on a global basis in terms of race, religion, and the likes.
The critical point is as a matter of protocol we need to stick to topic which in this case in 'Religion & its Evil Manifestations.'
What I have done is to establish the appropriate hypothesis and prove it with evidences which I have done.
The conclusion is; Islam is inherently both good and evil. It evil element influence evil prone Muslims from the natural potential pool of 20% of evil prone Muslims [300 million] to commit terrible evils and violence.
Since the hypothesis is proven, we should then accept it and deal with it accordingly to find preventive measures to eliminate/reduce that source of evils and violence.
I correct my earlier point to 1:7 is the malignant verse which should be eliminated. 1:6 can be retained.
Your deflection of 1:7 is due to your inoculation theory driven by emotional and psychological biasness. As usual we need to interpret Chapter 1:1-7 in the whole context of the Quran, the whole of Islam and reality as it was when the Chapter came about.
I did not imply the malignant 1:7 by itself will drive Muslims to commit evil and violence.
Based on Noldeke Chronological order of the chapters of the Quran, I am also making my own adjustments to the Chronology of the Quran.
I believe Chapter 1 - Al Fatiha is a summary of the Mecca phase and thus would be the first chapter of the Medinian verses follow by Chapter 2 and ending with Chapter 9 or 110.
The point of Muhammad's anger [abhorrence] with the Jews and condemning the Christians as going astray is very obvious throughout the Mecca Phased of the Quran.
Muhammad was very angry with the Jews for omitting him [as the prophesized messenger] from their book, thus accused them of corrupting the holy texts. If the Jews has agreed and accepted him it would have been an easier path for Muhammad to be a messenger of God.
Muhammad condemned the Christians as astray for believing in Jesus as son of God and not recognizing his as the messenger [Ahmed in the Bible].
All throughout the Meccan phase of the Quran, Muhammad was very angry with the Jews, Christians, the Meccan and other idolators who do not give any recognition to his message. The non-Muslims mocked Muhammad after he insulted their religions. The kuffar [infidels] were condemned with the worst kind of derogatory terms and dehumanized like a piece of sh:t.
Such terrible condemnation and dehumanizing is represented by verse 1:7 in All Fatiha.
Frankly there is no need to include 1:7 [the evil of us versus them, condemnation of 'them'] at all if the Quran is a matured spiritual and religious texts. If the holy texts by itself is good it will naturally promote progress and spiritual growth.
"There is no need to blow the candle of others to shine one's own" [only the immature do this].
But Muhammad was so emotionally and psychological effected with anger that he could not resist adding verse 1:7 to condemn the Jews and Christians.
Btw, I presume you are aware of the danger of [B]subliminal messages[/B].
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_stimuli[/URL]
I suggest you read this point so that you understand what I am trying to arrive at with 1:7 and its related verses from the whole of the Quran
[INDENT][B]Subliminal stimuli[/B] ([URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English"][COLOR=#0066cc]/sʌbˈlɪmɨnəl[/COLOR][COLOR=#0066cc]/[/COLOR][/URL]; literally "below threshold"), contrary to [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Supraliminal_stimuli&action=edit&redlink=1"][COLOR=#0066cc]supraliminal stimuli[/COLOR][/URL] or "above threshold", are any sensory stimuli below an individual's [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_threshold"][COLOR=#0066cc]threshold[/COLOR][/URL] for conscious [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perception"][COLOR=#0066cc]perception[/COLOR][/URL]
A recent review of functional magnetic resonance imaging ([URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_magnetic_resonance_imaging"][COLOR=#0066cc]fMRI[/COLOR][/URL]) studies shows that subliminal stimuli activate specific regions of the brain despite participants being unaware.
Visual stimuli may be quickly flashed before an individual can process them, or flashed and then masked, thereby interrupting the processing. Audio stimuli may be played below audible volumes or masked by other stimuli.
[/INDENT]There was this case of an advertiser inserting subliminal message, e.g. "drink Coca Cola" in the movies but which not consciously perceive by the audience. The immediate response was suddenly many of the audience went to by Coca Cola. When this was discovered by the authorities, subliminal message adverting were officially banned.
[URL="http://www.psychologistworld.com/influence_personality/subliminalads.php"]Subliminal Advertising - Influence & Personality Psychology - Psychologist World[/URL]
[URL="http://www.umich.edu/~onebook/pages/frames/legalSet.html"]Subliminal Perception: Legal Issues[/URL]
In Australia and Britain, the use of subliminal advertising has been banned with severe consequences for those who disobey the strict laws.
Now verse 1:7 will not trigger any adverse reaction on the conscious level when one read Chapter 1.
However in the Salat verse 1:7 is repeated many times silently by the individual each day and Muslims are exposed to it from various source. In this sense verse 1:7 is transmitted as a subliminal message that will have a negative impact on a Muslim [especially the vulnerable evil prone Muslims from a pool of 300 million Muslims].
Why 1:7 is critical and malignant is when 1:7 is its context with the whole of the Quran with >55% of evil elements in the Quran of driving contempt against non-believers with the angry and martial ethos of Muhammad.
The proof of the above so glaringly evident from the terrible evils and violence from the evil prone Muslims that is happening all around the world.
Your view that the Quran is a guide to help a Muslim to understand Islam is very wrong and misleading.
To say the Quran is a guide and help a Muslim to understand is to go against the principles of Allah. What is critical are the [B]imperative principles[/B] and practices that must be complied. If it is merely a guide, then one can exercise discretions in every aspects, but that is not the case as there are imperative conditions as ordained by Allah in the Quran.
The fact is the Quran is the only and sole source of Allah's words and thus the central representation of Islam. The Quran contain various elements of Islam, i.e. the main Principles [doctrines], terms and conditions of the covenant, guides to rituals, practices, etc. good tidings, reminders, commands, instructions, etc. and whatever is necessary for one to be a Muslim.
In fact it is the Ahadiths which should be the guides and expositions that will help one to understand the practices of Islam. As a guide the Ahadiths do not carry any divine authority. To impute authority on the Ahadiths is blasphemy and corrupting the pure religion of Islam as convey by Allah via Gabriel to Muhammad.
As you said, the 5 times is based on the [B]Ahadiths solely as guidance[/B] and thus not an imperative. The problem is the majority take the 5 times as a command of Allah via Muhammad and cause all sorts of guilt and manifestation of evils re those who do not comply.
My point is the Salat is one element of the procedure of the generic prayers in any religious and spiritual practices.
Since the Salat ignorantly promote a malignant subliminal message via 1:7, these negative element need to be resolved and corrected.
Muslims need to understand the generic principles of 'prayer' in the spiritual process and take initiatives to advance improve this process [by real neural changes] where possible.
[quote=Continuum;42675078]Link[/quote]
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