Is the New Testament historically accurate?
Posted 10-23-2015 at 10:05 AM by cupper3
discussion of Josephus and why inaccurate
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Originally Posted by AREQUIPA
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The Jewish war Ch 8. 1.
AND now Archelaus's part of Judea was reduced into a province, and Coponius, one of the equestrian order among the Romans, was sent as a procurator, having the power of [life and] death put into his hands by Caesar. Under his administration it was that a certain Galilean, whose name was Judas, prevailed with his countrymen to revolt, and said they were cowards if they would endure to pay a tax to the Romans and would after God submit to mortal men as their lords. This man was a teacher of a peculiar sect of his own, and was not at all like the rest of those their leaders.
Antiquities Book 18. Ch 1.
. NOW Cyrenius, a Roman senator, and one who had gone through other magistracies, and had passed through them till he had been consul, and one who, on other accounts, was of great dignity, came at this time into Syria, with a few others, being sent by Caesar to he a judge of that nation, and to take an account of their substance. Coponius also, a man of the equestrian order, was sent together with him, to have the supreme power over the Jews. Moreover, Cyrenius came himself into Judea, which was now added to the province of Syria, to take an account of their substance, and to dispose of Archelaus's money; but the Jews, although at the beginning they took the report of a taxation heinously, yet did they leave off any further opposition to it, by the persuasion of Joazar, who was the son of Beethus, and high priest; so they, being over-persuaded by Joazar's words, gave an account of their estates, without any dispute about it. Yet was there one Judas, a Gaulonite, of a city whose name was Gamala, who, taking with him Sadduc, a Pharisee, became zealous to draw them to a revolt
The two books are clearly describing the same tax revolt and is clearly at the time of the roman takeover of 6 AD after Herod Archelaus was deposed, and of course after the death of King Herod, whether that was 4 BC or later. However one tinkers or fiddles with the evidence, that is what it comes down to every time. The Lucan census looks to be the only one that Qurinus conducted. That was the one described in both books of Josephus and is the tax imposed after Judea became a Roman province. 6 A.D
The Jewish war Ch 8. 1.
AND now Archelaus's part of Judea was reduced into a province, and Coponius, one of the equestrian order among the Romans, was sent as a procurator, having the power of [life and] death put into his hands by Caesar. Under his administration it was that a certain Galilean, whose name was Judas, prevailed with his countrymen to revolt, and said they were cowards if they would endure to pay a tax to the Romans and would after God submit to mortal men as their lords. This man was a teacher of a peculiar sect of his own, and was not at all like the rest of those their leaders.
Antiquities Book 18. Ch 1.
. NOW Cyrenius, a Roman senator, and one who had gone through other magistracies, and had passed through them till he had been consul, and one who, on other accounts, was of great dignity, came at this time into Syria, with a few others, being sent by Caesar to he a judge of that nation, and to take an account of their substance. Coponius also, a man of the equestrian order, was sent together with him, to have the supreme power over the Jews. Moreover, Cyrenius came himself into Judea, which was now added to the province of Syria, to take an account of their substance, and to dispose of Archelaus's money; but the Jews, although at the beginning they took the report of a taxation heinously, yet did they leave off any further opposition to it, by the persuasion of Joazar, who was the son of Beethus, and high priest; so they, being over-persuaded by Joazar's words, gave an account of their estates, without any dispute about it. Yet was there one Judas, a Gaulonite, of a city whose name was Gamala, who, taking with him Sadduc, a Pharisee, became zealous to draw them to a revolt
The two books are clearly describing the same tax revolt and is clearly at the time of the roman takeover of 6 AD after Herod Archelaus was deposed, and of course after the death of King Herod, whether that was 4 BC or later. However one tinkers or fiddles with the evidence, that is what it comes down to every time. The Lucan census looks to be the only one that Qurinus conducted. That was the one described in both books of Josephus and is the tax imposed after Judea became a Roman province. 6 A.D
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