Is the Basis of Islam Sound?
Posted 07-29-2015 at 10:07 PM by Continuum
The following is the ground and basis of all theistic religions.
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2. Note -this [B][COLOR=blue]ED[/COLOR][/B] generate a drive that is more fundamental and stronger than the sexual libido.
3. This terrible [B][COLOR=blue]ED[/COLOR][/B] manifest psychological angst, anxieties, hopelessness, and the likes.
4. Humans use a various approaches to deal with the TERRIBLE angst of the [COLOR=blue]ED[/COLOR].
5. The majority are driven by the [COLOR=blue][B]ED[/B][/COLOR] to cling on to a [B]God[/B] which is a necessary delusion and other means [spiritual or secular].
6. The more competent individuals deal with the [B][COLOR=blue]ED[/COLOR][/B] on their own or in small groups.
7. The majority believers established Religions to guide themselves and others.
8. The individual religion hinges on an original founder, teacher, prophet, etc.
9. The main theistic religions are Judaism, Christianity, [B]Islam[/B], Hinduism, etc.
[/INDENT]What differentiate Islam from the other religions is specifically
1. a human being with a certain psychological state, personality & and life experiences/examples, and
2. the resultant Quran plus its later exegesis [hadiths, sira, etc]
3. an culminated Esprit de Corps manifesting from the above.
If one were to trace back from 9 backward to the fundamental grounds, 1-4 are facts.
But [B]5[/B] is based on an illusion and falsehoods, albeit it is necessary and work psychologically.
Whether God exists or not has been debated from eons ago ending with a consolation of 'theism has to be based on faith.'
The next consideration is the founder. The question is whether the founder has credible psychological and moral quotient. There are a lot of controversies surround the psychological and moral quotient of the founder of Islam in comparison to founders like Gautama, Jesus, Mahavira, Lao Tze and others.
Since the foundation of Islam is based on faith and that God does not exists the question is did God spoke to Muhammad [doubted] is a matter of fact or delusion?
One can infer the veracity of the basis of Islam from the above.
My inference and conclusion is not a favorable one.
[INDENT]1. All humans are infected with an unavoidable existential dilemma {[B][COLOR=blue]ED[/COLOR][/B]} embedded in the DNA/RNA.
2. Note -this [B][COLOR=blue]ED[/COLOR][/B] generate a drive that is more fundamental and stronger than the sexual libido.
3. This terrible [B][COLOR=blue]ED[/COLOR][/B] manifest psychological angst, anxieties, hopelessness, and the likes.
4. Humans use a various approaches to deal with the TERRIBLE angst of the [COLOR=blue]ED[/COLOR].
5. The majority are driven by the [COLOR=blue][B]ED[/B][/COLOR] to cling on to a [B]God[/B] which is a necessary delusion and other means [spiritual or secular].
6. The more competent individuals deal with the [B][COLOR=blue]ED[/COLOR][/B] on their own or in small groups.
7. The majority believers established Religions to guide themselves and others.
8. The individual religion hinges on an original founder, teacher, prophet, etc.
9. The main theistic religions are Judaism, Christianity, [B]Islam[/B], Hinduism, etc.
[/INDENT]What differentiate Islam from the other religions is specifically
1. a human being with a certain psychological state, personality & and life experiences/examples, and
2. the resultant Quran plus its later exegesis [hadiths, sira, etc]
3. an culminated Esprit de Corps manifesting from the above.
If one were to trace back from 9 backward to the fundamental grounds, 1-4 are facts.
But [B]5[/B] is based on an illusion and falsehoods, albeit it is necessary and work psychologically.
Whether God exists or not has been debated from eons ago ending with a consolation of 'theism has to be based on faith.'
The next consideration is the founder. The question is whether the founder has credible psychological and moral quotient. There are a lot of controversies surround the psychological and moral quotient of the founder of Islam in comparison to founders like Gautama, Jesus, Mahavira, Lao Tze and others.
Since the foundation of Islam is based on faith and that God does not exists the question is did God spoke to Muhammad [doubted] is a matter of fact or delusion?
One can infer the veracity of the basis of Islam from the above.
My inference and conclusion is not a favorable one.
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[B]I believe that we will[U] Never, never Know [/U]the ORIGINAL Meaning - of the Word * _ ISLAM
and this is SIMPLY because the Word [U] ISLAM[/U] [COLOR="Blue"][FONT="Arial Black"]has no eXistance[/FONT][/COLOR] before Mohammud.
To say that ISLAM traces it ROOTS back to Father Abraham.__ The FACTS Show - this to be Totally Wrong
Why Would You Think - that Islam has TRACED its Faith or ROOTS back to Abraham.
The Facts prove that Islam Never eXisted Before 700 AD / Before Mohammud.
People tent to think Islam has a VALID Historical Connection with the God of Abraham. [U]But Islam is missing Many commonalities with the - JUDIAC - God of Abraham in the Torah.[/U]
For eXample ISLAM - [U] before the 7th CENTURY [/U]has [COLOR="Blue"]no, preserved record.[/COLOR] No[COLOR="Blue"] BIBLES[/COLOR], NO [COLOR="Blue"]PRESERVED BOOKS[/COLOR] / No [COLOR="Blue"]Manuscripts[/COLOR] No [COLOR="Blue"]Record[/COLOR]. OR [U]Proof of eXistance. [/U]. Its Claims are PROVEN to be incorrect, [U]invented by a single generation[/U] and [I][U]a single[/U][/I] Character. Mohammud.
Concerning Islamic - 7 th Century Manuscripts, They GO On and on, Describing a Deity A Location and Some Characters, that are Mentioned in the Torah and Gospels. AND it also Demands that the Torah and Gospels are in agreement with its Quranic Message.
But They are not in Agreement..
And REMEMBER, Again, before the 7th CENTURY, ISLAM - has absolutely NO HISTORY OF ISLAM, NO ARTIFACTS, no Genealogies. .
it is Clear that - They USE the Ancient Torah manuscripts t[U]o Gather INFO[/U] and to [I][U]MENTION[/U][/I] God, Abraham, Ishmael and Israel AND The Middle Eastern Area. B[U]UT The Historical Manuscripts and World history does not support their Claims. [/U]
Because Islam [U]has no historical manuscripts [/U]NOR world History. THEREFORE - to Continue on, Promoting the IDEA that they have many things IN COMMON,[U] simply is completely untruth[/U] and a False *( basically an [U]IGNORING TYPE[/U] ) Conduct.
The Facts Demonstrate - That Islam truly has nothing HISTORICALY in common with Judaism. Because ... For eXample - The God of Abraham Does not Promote or Condone Divorce. [U]But the god of Islam is a huge Promoter of Divorce.[/U] A Muslim Woman can Spend her Lifetime in a continual Lifestyle of continual Remarriage. Divorcing and Remarriage, is OK to the god of islam. [U]But is Wrong and bad to Abraham and his God.[/U]
If You will NOTICE, The Torah and the Gospels are not Conflicting or in disagreement. The God of the Torah is Visiting man on Earth, in FULL and COMPLETE Human Form. The Spirit of God -Morphing Himself, into a Complete Human Being.
[U]The New and Old Testament - They agree In Historical Context,[/U] --- agree about the [U]Deity and Capabilities[/U] of God and Agree about Geographical Facts and Agree about the eXpectations and Laws of God. The New Testament does not Declare a Contradicting History , Nor the Torah. [U] It Verifies the genealogy of the jEWS[/U] and Deals out a message of Prediction and Prophecy to jEWS who will soon be Scattered [U]around the Earth. [/U]
350 - 400 years after the last Book of the Torah, Jesus Christ Comes to Give that Message and Confirms the Torah.
But the Quran does not Confirm or Validate anything [I][U]from any WORLD History[/U][/I] nor Ancient Scripts. [COLOR="Red"] Anywhere at any time.[/COLOR]
Would You not think it best to realize that Islam is a RELIGION - that has absolutely nothing to do with Abraham. Because the Abraham of ISLAM .- He Never eXisted in The Bible - Nor his God or Faith.
Don't You think that[COLOR="Red"] ALSO -[/COLOR] The Fact - that Horrible Female genital mutilation *( FEMALE CIRCUNCISION ) has been Going on for many years throughout the Islamic World. [U]Thousands and Thousands of Little Girls are mutilated and disfigured and Tortured[/U] because they want to MIMICK and [COLOR="Red"]COPY[/COLOR] and *( out-right Basically twist ) pervert- the Ideas of The Torah.
But The Rest of the Muslim World [FONT="Arial Black"]Says absolutely Nothing about it.[/FONT] They Don't Care enough to say or do anything to stop it.
The Muslims around the planet,[U] SAY NOTHING, DO NOTHING[/U] and Just leave it Open for anyone to Mutilate and Torture Little Girls in Circumcision, that has never been in the Torah. Abraham NOR his God - would never go for this Useless Procedure that does not preserve health or make women healthier.
Please let me know if i am Wrong and why .
Because we have no History of the Word ISLAM before Mohamud. Islam is not in the Bible, not in History, not A Reality based word that can be understood and broken down by understanding its Root Originality.
I Really think - that Muslims do not find Scholars very helpful Because they are limited ONLY to the Islamic Scholars who arrive after Mohammud. Because Islam has no proof or evidence or Manuscripts or Gospels of eXisting before Mohammud. There were no Scholars or Historians who discussed Islamic Gospels or Islamic Scriptures.
So much that the Quran and Haddi Claim, is not Compatible with World History or the Gospels or Torah. Scholars and Historians and Scriptures are Picked and Chosen Very carefully. As where the Torah and Gospels is able to Agree with EVERY Knowledgeable, Educated and Honest Scholar on Earth / All Historical Facts - can Verify that the Facts of the Torah and Gospels are Either 100 % Factual truth or just an unknown Claim that can not be Proven true but can not be proven False. Nearly Every page of the Quran Can be proven FALSE either by the Bible or History. Scholars are only stating their opinions on the FACTS. Muslims have no need for this type of Thought process..
it is Like - When a Muslim Comes to You and Asks You - The Great Islamic Question. *: to Christians. "" is - " Where Did Jesus Say the Words - I am God, Worship me. "
the Muslim never takes the time to Look at the Fact how that He Must Ignore the Book of Revelation, where Jesus Personally DECLARES that HE is - The Almighty - The First and Last. and they Also Ignore the Fact that Mohammud *( IN The Quran ) - Never Once Says the Words. I am a prophet or I am A Messenger of God. This intellectual Dishonesty is Because of the overall goal Of Islam - to to down, throw down and destroy the God of Abraham and Jesus Christ. The God of the Torah and Gospels at all Costs.
I honestly believe the God of Abraham and the god of Islam are not the Same gods. this[U] proven i[/U]n every way.
Please let me know if You agree and if not, lets Discuss it. I would Love to talk to You.
[/B]Posted 08-29-2015 at 07:24 PM by Psyrrzine Quest
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[B]I honestly believe the God of Abraham and the god of Islam are not the Same gods. this[U] proven i[/U]n every way.[/B]
It is only for general discussion that Islam is lumped up with Judaism and Christianity as the category of Abrahamic Religions.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions[/URL]
If we make the attempt to get to the bottom of it [for philosophical and truth sake], I agree, the God of Abraham in the context of the Torah is not the same as the Allah of Islam in the context of Muhammad as the last messenger.Posted 09-09-2015 at 08:36 PM by Continuum
