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You forgot Boeing and I certainly don't think that Vancouver is any cleaner than Seattle,
Having been to both cities many many times, I can say that Vancouver, especially city proper, is more clean, with a more organized and well-functioning city center. Not really surprising, as Vancouver's city council spends quite a good chunk of money on urban beautification and constant street cleaning and maintenance.
I live in Toronto so I don't have a preference for one over the other. If I had to choose a place to live, I'd go with Seattle mainly for career reasons.
Vancouver is a better tourist destination, Seattle is a better city to make a living. I don't feel either city is really that much better than the other in terms of things to do, but Seattle's economy is much, much more dynamic--it's a city on the move right now. Vancouver needs to figure out what is wants to be in the future--just more of a tourist city with real estate driven by mainland Chinese rich investors or a driver of the economy for Western Canada.
Both cities get criticized for the same things from people "back east"(Toronto or New York take your pick)--they're seen as provincial outposts, not as lively and urban as the big cities on the other side of the continent--though it wasn't long ago that Seattle and Vancouver were both basically outposts on the frontier--just sort of small ports. You can have a good time in both cities, but not if you're expecting New York.
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Both cities get criticized for the same things from people "back east"(Toronto or New York take your pick)--they're seen as provincial outposts, not as lively and urban as the big cities on the other side of the continent--though it wasn't long ago that Seattle and Vancouver were both basically outposts on the frontier--just sort of small ports. You can have a good time in both cities, but not if you're expecting New York.
I do not think Seattle has the reputation to be a provincial outpost compared to the US east coast at all like Vancouver does for Torontonians.
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Having been to both cities many many times, I can say that Vancouver, especially city proper, is more clean, with a more organized and well-functioning city center. Not really surprising, as Vancouver's city council spends quite a good chunk of money on urban beautification and constant street cleaning and maintenance.
I live in Toronto so I don't have a preference for one over the other. If I had to choose a place to live, I'd go with Seattle mainly for career reasons.
I do not think Vancouver is any "cleaner" than Seattle, it has simply more old buildings in its core. Seattle city center is as well functioning as Vancouver but for different purposes.....Seattle downtown is mainly for business.
Obviously Vancouver downtown has a better waterfront (let's not forget that the viaduct is being knocked down) and Stanley Park right there.
However the Seattle core is changing radically, the entire city is a collection of cranes and road projects...the north side is already very different than even only 3 years ago.
I do not think Seattle has the reputation to be a provincial outpost compared to the US east coast at all like Vancouver does for Torontonians.
You've never been to the Seattle boards here than have you? Yes, it does have that reputation. Most East Coasters who move anywhere in the Northwest either love the natural landscape or complain about boredom and passive aggressive people.
You've never been to the Seattle boards here than have you? Yes, it does have that reputation. Most East Coasters who move anywhere in the Northwest either love the natural landscape or complain about boredom and passive aggressive people.
.....that does not means that Seattle is considered provincial (especially from an economic standpoint) nor i haven't heard much about boredom....but yes they complain about unfriendliness (the famous "Seattle freeze"), passive-aggressive people, the gray weather, etc....
People move to Seattle mainly for career reasons, not to retire or doing outdoor stuff in their 20s.....
Obviously, for New Yorkers, everything outside of NY is provincial maybe even LA!!
.....that does not means that Seattle is considered provincial (especially from an economic standpoint) nor i haven't heard much about boredom....but yes they complain about unfriendliness (the famous "Seattle freeze"), passive-aggressive people, the gray weather, etc....
People move to Seattle mainly for career reasons, not to retire or doing outdoor stuff in their 20s.....
Maybe now they do--in the 90s plenty of people just moved to Seattle because it was "cool". It's changed pretty quickly, it's a much more expensive place and much more corporate, but you still have people who move to Seattle because they like the landscape of the area--it's definitely an attraction. There's plenty of places in the US that have jobs and strong economies--so even people moving to Seattle for a career often make the choice because they find the region appealing(and outdoor recreation opportunities). If one just wants a career there's always flat and booming Houston.
I like Seattle, though I just don't find it much more interesting or have that much more going on(besides jobs) than any other Northwest city(except for MLB and NFL). I could still move there and enjoy it, but my life wouldn't be much more exciting than it is now. Personally though I don't even find the "Seattle Freeze" to be true, but I've already got friends in Seattle so I'm not trying to walk up to people on the street to make acquaintances.
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Maybe now they do--in the 90s plenty of people just moved to Seattle because it was "cool". It's changed pretty quickly, it's a much more expensive place and much more corporate, but you still have people who move to Seattle because they like the landscape of the area--it's definitely an attraction. There's plenty of places in the US that have jobs and strong economies--so even people moving to Seattle for a career often make the choice because they find the region appealing(and outdoor recreation opportunities). If one just wants a career there's always flat and booming Houston.
I like Seattle, though I just don't find it much more interesting or have that much more going on(besides jobs) than any other Northwest city(except for MLB and NFL). I could still move there and enjoy it, but my life wouldn't be much more exciting than it is now. Personally though I don't even find the "Seattle Freeze" to be true, but I've already got friends in Seattle so I'm not trying to walk up to people on the street to make acquaintances.
Obviously there are people that enjoy this weather and landscape so if they can make a good living in Seattle is the better for them.
Having been to both cities many many times, I can say that Vancouver, especially city proper, is more clean, with a more organized and well-functioning city center. Not really surprising, as Vancouver's city council spends quite a good chunk of money on urban beautification and constant street cleaning and maintenance.
I live in Toronto so I don't have a preference for one over the other. If I had to choose a place to live, I'd go with Seattle mainly for career reasons.
I have lived in both cities.
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