Is East Texas culturally part of the Deep South? (Houston: living, vs)

[JohninAustin]

Originally Posted by An0nym0us88

I don't know why some people click no.

Are people just saying East Texas is just East Texas?

I think so many people are sick of discussing racism and Texas..... and the term "Deep South" is just another euphenism for "Racism". Texas is one of the most diverse and tolerant states out there. Why even try to tie it to racism. It's 2012.... not 1865.

[Nairobi]

Originally Posted by TexasHorseLady

Simple. I was born and bred in East Texas. Thus I clicked no because my opinion as a native of that area differs from yours.

I seem to remember you saying this, but I can't recall what your points were. Would you mind repeating them?

Originally Posted by JohninAustin

I think so many people are sick of discussing racism and Texas..... and

. Texas is one of the most diverse and tolerant states out there. Why even try to tie it to racism. It's 2012.... not 1865.

No, it's not.

[TexasReb]

Originally Posted by JohninAustin

I think so many people are sick of discussing racism and Texas..... and the term "Deep South" is just another euphenism for "Racism". Texas is one of the most diverse and tolerant states out there. Why even try to tie it to racism. It's 2012.... not 1865.

Huh? Actually, today, the "Deep South" is the most "integrated" of all regions and sub-regions.

Where do you come by this notion of it being a "code-word" for racial intolerance??? It has nothing in the least to do with "coding" and/or euphemisms."

Reasonable people can disagree on the subject of the boundaries of the "Deep South"....but the general topic stands as one of merit...and could end or begin with south Mississippi and Alabama....or stretch as far west as East Texas (where there was actually a greater "Lower South" and "Old South" history than in northern Alabama or Georgia or south Louisiana.). It was cotton plantation country and purely Confederate. Even today it brags (and rightfully) as "Deep South."

There are many "Souths"...especially in Texas. East Texas is Deep South..and was never anything different. Its entire settlement is Deep South.

Most of the rest of Texas is "western South. That is, the Southwest of the South. Not the Southwest of the West of New Mexico and Arizona.

[JohninAustin]

Originally Posted by Nairobi

I seem to remember you saying this, but I can't recall what your points were. Would you mind repeating them?



No, it's not.

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[Trimac20]

Originally Posted by Nairobi

Yes, and this is an inarguable fact.

Trimac, you seem to have an inexplicably great deal of intimate knowledge about the U.S., for an Australian. You know more about Texas than many Texans.

I guess I'm a bit nerdy...all in all I've only spent 6 weeks in the US, but did travel across the great state of Texas! I can't say I really know as much as an American, of course, but I do have the perspective of an outsider. Everything from Austin East seemed really green, the people seemed very Southern, although we did pass through a heavily Hispanic neighbourhood in Houston. Driving from Houston to Lafayette was very enjoyable, so lush it could almost pass for a jungle.

[Trimac20]

Originally Posted by TexasReb

Huh? Actually, today, the "Deep South" is the most "integrated" of all regions and sub-regions.

Where do you come by this notion of it being a "code-word" for racial intolerance??? It has nothing in the least to do with "coding" and/or euphemisms."

Reasonable people can disagree on the subject of the boundaries of the "Deep South"....but the general topic stands as one of merit...and could end or begin with south Mississippi and Alabama....or stretch as far west as East Texas (where there was actually a greater "Lower South" and "Old South" history than in northern Alabama or Georgia or south Louisiana.). It was cotton plantation country and purely Confederate. Even today it brags (and rightfully) as "Deep South."

There are many "Souths"...especially in Texas. East Texas is Deep South..and was never anything different. Its entire settlement is Deep South.

Most of the rest of Texas is "western South. That is, the Southwest of the South. Not the Southwest of the West of New Mexico and Arizona.

I think some people can't be blamed when they think religious fundamentalism, and intolerance when they hear 'Deep South' because of all the stereotyping going on, and well, learning about Civil Rights history. Many don't realise things have changed a lot. I went through the heart of the Deep South and wish I'd actually spend more time so I could get to know the people, but they weren't anything but friendly. I didn't detect much racial tension in the US in general - I feel it more in Australia, to tell the truth - but again I don't live there so I can't say for sure.

[EasilyAmused]

I clicked yes. I've owned a place for hunting/weekend escape for 4 years in Rusk. I don't attach "deep south" to any religious freakiness. In fact, I bought there for it's deep south feeling. As an atheist/agnostic I've haven't been offended by what other people believe in or pursue.

The people are private, cautious, loyal and willing to lend a handle a stranger...no matter color or creed. Now the illegal Mexicans flooding the area...well that's another thing entirely, and I'm on board with "deep south" or deep east texas opinions on that one. "Pay some damn taxes and you can play. Thanks and have a nice day."

[Pontificator]

I'm fidna say yes on this one.

[L210]

I clicked yes because part of my family is from East Texas and they are culturally nothing like the people in South Texas. I was talking to a white man a couple of months ago with a thick, Southern accent. I immediately knew he was not from San Antonio, so I asked him where he was from. He said Houston. He was in his late 20s or early 30s, by the way.

[doctorjef]

I find it hard to lump Houston in with East Texas, given the particular urban identity of Houston. Huntsville, not so far from Houston, seems like a sort of border zone, just within East Texas. The area defined as East Texas has irregular boundaries. I certainly wouldn't include the prairie around Bryan-College Station. Everything in the Piney Woods is East Texas, and culturally the sub-region of Southeast Texas has to be thrown in with East Texas, although it is more like South Louisiana than the rest of East Texas, which just seems generically Southern. I suppose Houston might be seen as analogous to Atlanta - a city that is in the South but not so much of the South in the present day.