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Old 04-07-2024, 12:37 PM
 
Location: North Dakota
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Again. There isn't actually a teacher shortage in this country. Because there isn't one single market for teachers in this country. Many parts of the country have teacher surpluses. Attractive cities and towns in states that support teachers with decent salaries and benefits have absolutely no trouble attracting teachers.

What we actually have is a situation where individual districts and even whole states are unable to attract teachers because they are not offering appealing combinations of location, salary, benefits, and working conditions. And teachers have other choices.
There are fewer people going to school to be teachers and retiring Baby Boomers. You don't seem to know what the word shortage means.

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Also today (npr)

https://www.marketplace.org/shows/ma...ment-conundrum

The public school enrollment conundrum. 40% drop in enrollment in some districts. (Yikes, the government funding dries up with reduced enrollment)

Sounds like a win:win.... Fewer teachers needed for few students.

Now to get more dead weight to take early retirement, or preferably quit sooner than later.
(as well articulated in industry)... " Do the company (schools and students) a BIG favor.... and GOHOME!"

Freakonomics has some really good series on education, with very learned, knowledgeable, experienced, and insightful academia leaders. (I.e. not Dead weight, YCDT whiners)
A win win hub? This coming from the home schooling parent.
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Old 04-07-2024, 03:02 PM
 
Location: WA
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You're right. There isn't a teacher shortage, even in areas where districts can't find enough qualified candidates to fill all classrooms. There is a shortage of people who are willing and able to teach under the current conditions.

When all districts have to offer is low pay and poor working conditions, the rewards of teaching are not enough to offset all the crap that goes along with the good stuff, from atrocious student behavior, to overwhelming administrivia, to complications with the students' families and home lives.
Not coincidentally, the places that have the hardest time finding teachers are also the same places that do the most to denigrate teaching and the teaching profession.
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