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Old 01-24-2023, 08:31 PM
 
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She isn't one of my children, nor a relative, but she lives at my house. What a fantastic teacher she could be! She tells me about the kids and her classroom experiences, and I have heard her with the kids online, in the last school year. She loves teaching, and she confides in me.

But she tells me that many of the experienced teachers in her building tell her such discouraging things about the field, and I can tell that it disturbs and kinda frightens her. "It's worse than it has ever been," and " I am just so exhausted and no one listens to us." And "I have only 20 minutes to myself all day." I do wonder if they all just blow off frustration at her, but I sure wish they would think about what they are telling a promising student.



I do rather understand, having worked as an RN, and as a mom who was involved with the schools. Such hard work...and underpaid.



Makes me feel like calling the school and anonymously telling the principal about this, or saying something to the district superintendent...but she is a young adult. So I won't. I sure wish I could say something more encouraging to her, though. I most certainly appreciate a good teacher! Good teachers are so very vital to our children and to the future of our country. Worth their weight in gold. We need people like her to stay in the field.



Any suggestions out there?
Encouraging people to quit makes the dead weight feel important. I was deeply saddened to learn of a young teacher from my Uni was shot by a 6 year old. But, the facts surrounding the shooting are shockingly horrible.
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Old 01-25-2023, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Sunnybrook Farm
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She isn't one of my children, nor a relative, but she lives at my house. What a fantastic teacher she could be! She tells me about the kids and her classroom experiences, and I have heard her with the kids online, in the last school year. She loves teaching, and she confides in me.

But she tells me that many of the experienced teachers in her building tell her such discouraging things about the field, and I can tell that it disturbs and kinda frightens her. "It's worse than it has ever been," and " I am just so exhausted and no one listens to us." And "I have only 20 minutes to myself all day." I do wonder if they all just blow off frustration at her, but I sure wish they would think about what they are telling a promising student.



I do rather understand, having worked as an RN, and as a mom who was involved with the schools. Such hard work...and underpaid.



Makes me feel like calling the school and anonymously telling the principal about this, or saying something to the district superintendent...but she is a young adult. So I won't. I sure wish I could say something more encouraging to her, though. I most certainly appreciate a good teacher! Good teachers are so very vital to our children and to the future of our country. Worth their weight in gold. We need people like her to stay in the field.



Any suggestions out there?
Welcome to the real world!
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Old 01-30-2023, 05:57 PM
 
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This happens in nearly every career, especially those in change (education).

Encourage this new teacher to be their best and bring their unique value to others (students, staff, community). One person can make important contributions and even change the status quo. (VERY important in Edu).

Focus on what each person can do to improve the lives and success of others.

Don't sit on the pitty-pot. (Some people's favorite and most familiar spot).

In general, teachers are huge cry-babies. That is why the USA is so stuck at providing inferior education to our most outstanding and capable learners.

Your new teacher can learn a lot by reading the messages she is getting from others as a 'script' of. "I don't want to ever go there!, Be like these defeated teachers and administrators.".

Live above your circumstances, never below them. Don't let them define you, your objectives, or your success.
I am a cry baby, is that's what you want to call us teachers, when I am in an over crowded classroom, with no help, and most of my students aren't getting any support at home, and living in some of the worst circumstances (homelessness).

I am a cry baby, when I have 5 challenging students in my classroom, and the behavioral specialist comes into my classroom for ONLY 5 MINUTES, to assess the situation, to then go and tattle on me to my principal because I told him that the token board that he wants me to use to stop those challenging behaviors aren't realistic and requires me to stop teaching and monitor those students' behavior.

I am a cry baby, when I am abruptly moved from the 4th grade to Kindergarten, disrupting my 4th grade students as well as the new kinders who were in three other kinder classrooms, who were moved into my new classroom. I was given a very short time to prep, and I have never taught Kindergarten. Mind you I was promised that my class would be small, then in the recent two weeks after Winter break, I receive 5 new students, who have never been to school.

If teachers have challenging behaviors, the new buzz word for teachers is that our classroom culture isn't positive.

So of course I am a cry baby. Yes I am crying very loudly lol.....
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Old 01-30-2023, 06:02 PM
 
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She isn't one of my children, nor a relative, but she lives at my house. What a fantastic teacher she could be! She tells me about the kids and her classroom experiences, and I have heard her with the kids online, in the last school year. She loves teaching, and she confides in me.

But she tells me that many of the experienced teachers in her building tell her such discouraging things about the field, and I can tell that it disturbs and kinda frightens her. "It's worse than it has ever been," and " I am just so exhausted and no one listens to us." And "I have only 20 minutes to myself all day." I do wonder if they all just blow off frustration at her, but I sure wish they would think about what they are telling a promising student.



I do rather understand, having worked as an RN, and as a mom who was involved with the schools. Such hard work...and underpaid.



Makes me feel like calling the school and anonymously telling the principal about this, or saying something to the district superintendent...but she is a young adult. So I won't. I sure wish I could say something more encouraging to her, though. I most certainly appreciate a good teacher! Good teachers are so very vital to our children and to the future of our country. Worth their weight in gold. We need people like her to stay in the field.



Any suggestions out there?
I have been in the classroom for 30 years now. THE CHALLENGING BEHAVIORS HAVE BECOME TO UNMANAGEABLE TO HANDLE, at least here in California. That is why I wouldn't recommend teaching as a career. The EXTREME CHALLENGING behaviors drain every ounce out of you mentally and physically.
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Old 01-30-2023, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I am a cry baby, is that's what you want to call us teachers, when I am in an over crowded classroom, with no help, and most of my students aren't getting any support at home, and living in some of the worst circumstances (homelessness).

I am a cry baby, when I have 5 challenging students in my classroom, and the behavioral specialist comes into my classroom for ONLY 5 MINUTES, to assess the situation, to then go and tattle on me to my principal because I told him that the token board that he wants me to use to stop those challenging behaviors aren't realistic and requires me to stop teaching and monitor those students' behavior.

I am a cry baby, when I am abruptly moved from the 4th grade to Kindergarten, disrupting my 4th grade students as well as the new kinders who were in three other kinder classrooms, who were moved into my new classroom. I was given a very short time to prep, and I have never taught Kindergarten. Mind you I was promised that my class would be small, then in the recent two weeks after Winter break, I receive 5 new students, who have never been to school.

If teachers have challenging behaviors, the new buzz word for teachers is that our classroom culture isn't positive.

So of course I am a cry baby. Yes I am crying very loudly lol.....
Remember that it's easy for those on the outside to criticize those on the front lines.
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Old 01-31-2023, 04:24 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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I am a cry baby, is that's what you want to call us teachers, when I am in an over crowded classroom, with no help, and most of my students aren't getting any support at home, and living in some of the worst circumstances (homelessness).

I am a cry baby, when I have 5 challenging students in my classroom, and the behavioral specialist comes into my classroom for ONLY 5 MINUTES, to assess the situation, to then go and tattle on me to my principal because I told him that the token board that he wants me to use to stop those challenging behaviors aren't realistic and requires me to stop teaching and monitor those students' behavior.

I am a cry baby, when I am abruptly moved from the 4th grade to Kindergarten, disrupting my 4th grade students as well as the new kinders who were in three other kinder classrooms, who were moved into my new classroom. I was given a very short time to prep, and I have never taught Kindergarten. Mind you I was promised that my class would be small, then in the recent two weeks after Winter break, I receive 5 new students, who have never been to school.

If teachers have challenging behaviors, the new buzz word for teachers is that our classroom culture isn't positive.

So of course I am a cry baby. Yes I am crying very loudly lol.....
I’d be crying, too. So would most people. This post is a prime example of why teachers are leaving the profession. And, for those not paying attention, notice no mention was made of money.
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Old 01-31-2023, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I’d be crying, too. So would most people. This post is a prime example of why teachers are leaving the profession. And, for those not paying attention, notice no mention was made of money.
And I don't have a problem with those of us in education who are "cry babies". I know a retired pilot who moans and groans incessantly about his profession. I read an article recently about complaints doctors have about patients. When I worked in a grocery store I had my complaints. Most professions are full of cry babies.

Unfortunately, few members of the public listen to legitimate complaints of professional educators.
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Old 02-11-2023, 08:56 AM
 
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Remember that it's easy for those on the outside to criticize those on the front lines.
You are absolutely right.
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Old 06-05-2023, 03:06 PM
 
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She isn't one of my children, nor a relative, but she lives at my house. What a fantastic teacher she could be! She tells me about the kids and her classroom experiences, and I have heard her with the kids online, in the last school year. She loves teaching, and she confides in me.

But she tells me that many of the experienced teachers in her building tell her such discouraging things about the field, and I can tell that it disturbs and kinda frightens her. "It's worse than it has ever been," and " I am just so exhausted and no one listens to us." And "I have only 20 minutes to myself all day." I do wonder if they all just blow off frustration at her, but I sure wish they would think about what they are telling a promising student.



I do rather understand, having worked as an RN, and as a mom who was involved with the schools. Such hard work...and underpaid.



Makes me feel like calling the school and anonymously telling the principal about this, or saying something to the district superintendent...but she is a young adult. So I won't. I sure wish I could say something more encouraging to her, though. I most certainly appreciate a good teacher! Good teachers are so very vital to our children and to the future of our country. Worth their weight in gold. We need people like her to stay in the field.



Any suggestions out there?
Life experience is what gets a person to that confidence level.

It takes time.

She just needs to calm down as much as possible and not be so hard on herself.

Simply, prepare her day/week/month in advance, in writing.

Also, she should find a mentor teacher that is positive and can help her, answer her questions, etc.

Keep us posted. This is a good one. Many young teachers quit to early because of this stress. And the community suffers because of this.
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