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Old 10-21-2023, 03:12 PM
 
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Organic food based d3 along with k2 org/food based. 2 or 3 times a week. (Skin cancer.) I also take cod liver at times instead of d3-
But i take many supps. Getting ready to order routine blood work and might add d3 to find out where Im at.
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Old 10-24-2023, 02:21 PM
 
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I take a basic costco brand multivitamin, magnesium, glycine, and eat a clean diet. I also eat a diet high in Betaine (Aldi brand Bran Flake Cereal) and Choline (Organic certified Humane eggs)

You can get most of your needs from a good diet high in antioxidants. Besides these things, I put tretinoin that I get from an online pharmacy on my face at night mixed with Cerave lotion and use sunblock on my face which I import from Europe, where they have better sunscreens.


I used to take more stuff, but I've cut back.
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Old 10-25-2023, 12:26 PM
 
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So, the OP's post was dated August of 2022.

I don't want to experiment with the medical rabbit hole today. But my question:
If there are two massive studies in The Lancet, and a massive new study in NEJM, why are you supplying links from Forbes Magazine - one of which is from 2013?

Without having read any of the sources in this thread, I'll say - I don't think anyone "needs" extra vitamins unless they are deficient. If they're deficient in a nutrient that the body needs in order to be healthy, then sure - they should supplement in some way. Whether eating different food, getting more sun, taking a tablet, chewing a chewable, injecting a whatever. Whatever your licensed medical professional recommends, that you are on board with. If you need it, take it. If you don't need it, then taking it is just wasted money and a *potential* for harm in the future.
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Old 10-25-2023, 12:41 PM
 
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So, the OP's post was dated August of 2022.

I don't want to experiment with the medical rabbit hole today. But my question:
If there are two massive studies in The Lancet, and a massive new study in NEJM, why are you supplying links from Forbes Magazine - one of which is from 2013?

Without having read any of the sources in this thread, I'll say - I don't think anyone "needs" extra vitamins unless they are deficient. If they're deficient in a nutrient that the body needs in order to be healthy, then sure - they should supplement in some way. Whether eating different food, getting more sun, taking a tablet, chewing a chewable, injecting a whatever. Whatever your licensed medical professional recommends, that you are on board with. If you need it, take it. If you don't need it, then taking it is just wasted money and a *potential* for harm in the future.
That is my general consensus after reading newer studies.

For the average person, the best route is to get most if not all of your nutrients, vitamins and minerals from natural sources.

Basically our bodies have evolved to get say Vitamin C from an orange. But it's much more than Vit C, it's fiber, it's all the other nutrients that come in that package.

The modern thoughts are that Vitamin D may be deficient in people, esp in the norther hemisphere during the non Summer months. Therefore a supplement may do good in that area.

The problem with modern society is that we eat so much ultra processed foods devoid of nutrients and chock full of sugar, fat and salt.

Then we probably need a "supplement" in a form of multivitamins to fill in the void.

Eat mainly whole foods and eat as much variety as possible and make sure you get some sun and drink water and I think most people are okay without multivitamins.
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Old 10-28-2023, 10:41 AM
 
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So, the OP's post was dated August of 2022.

I don't want to experiment with the medical rabbit hole today. But my question:
If there are two massive studies in The Lancet, and a massive new study in NEJM, why are you supplying links from Forbes Magazine - one of which is from 2013?

Without having read any of the sources in this thread, I'll say - I don't think anyone "needs" extra vitamins unless they are deficient. If they're deficient in a nutrient that the body needs in order to be healthy, then sure - they should supplement in some way. Whether eating different food, getting more sun, taking a tablet, chewing a chewable, injecting a whatever. Whatever your licensed medical professional recommends, that you are on board with. If you need it, take it. If you don't need it, then taking it is just wasted money and a *potential* for harm in the future.
This ^^^^^

American food is already "enriched" with many plastic vitamins from Asia. No need to take even more. I am pretty sure we are already overloaded with them. Since so many foods are "enriched" do we even know how much of it we already take daily?

Just eat proper food that will supply your body with plenty of natural vitamin and minerals. There is no reason not to eat healthy, but it's your informed choice.
Still, buying more plastic vitamins that don't even properly dissolve or absorb in your body takes a toll on your liver.

Also, people should pay attention to proper pairing vitamins. Some needs to be taken with or without food for optimal absorption, some shouldn't be taken together with other vitamins because they cancel each other. Others should be paired together for better body absorption. And there are vitamins/minerals that are absorbed better than others.

Just an example:
Let's look at calcium. The best absorbed calcium is calcium citrate which isn't a natural form of calcium but a calcium compound bound with citric acid. However, because calcium citrate is only 21% calcium, you may need to take more tablets to get your daily requirement. It might also upset your stomach.
For calcium absorption you should take it with vitamin D and magnesium.
Now, magnesium chloride is better than oxide and sulfate forms.
As of vit.D - 20 minutes in the sun ( with exposed skin that is not covered with sun blockers) is enough for your body. But if your sun exposure is limited, you might need to supplement it. Take organic vitamin D. - Magnesium Glycinate Chelate is a good option.

Calcium is best absorbed when taken in 500mg doses, not 1200 mg at once.

So, you see if you really want to help your body, you shouldn't just buy the cheapest multivitamin but educate yourself about them to make the best of it.

(Free printables from Internet):





"Yummy" synthetic vitamins:



Example of nutrition label on natural vitamin/minerals supplement


https://www.amazon.com/Garden-Life-M...ref=mp_s_a_1_1

Always consult your doctor, because some supplements interact with medications


Details here:
https://www.uspharmacist.com/article...s-and-minerals

Pinterest has lots of informative charts.
https://id.pinterest.com/pin/825706912908985929/

Stuff to read:
https://www.todaysdietitian.com/supplements_index.shtml

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