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Who came up with 3 days? Why 3 days? How come it's not a 1-day waiting period or a 5-day waiting period? Or a 7-day waiting period? If the idea of this law is to make sure the woman knows what she is getting into, how do we know that 3 days is enough? Or not enough? What is to stop the government from instituing a 2-week waiting period?
Without the law, can't a woman wait 3 days after she visits her doctor if she thinks she needs more time to think it over? Can't she wait a week if she thinks she needs more time to think it over? Can't she think about it overnight if she wants to? Can't she get it done immediately if she is sure about it? Yes, that's what I thought. Women have the capability of waiting to think it over if they need more time to make a decision. They do not need the government writing a law to tell them they need at least 3 days to think it over.
This law is arbitrary and basically implies that women cannot decide for themselves, after visiting a doctor, if they need more time to think over what they are doing.
Section 3. That chapter 34-23A be amended by adding thereto a NEW SECTION to read as follows:
No surgical or medical abortion may be scheduled except by a licensed physician and only after the physician personally meets with the pregnant mother, consults with her, and performs an assessment of her medical and personal circumstances. Only after the physician completes the consultation and assessment complying with the provisions of this Act, may the physician schedule a surgical or medical abortion, but in no instance may the physician schedule such surgical or medical abortion to take place in less than seventy-two hours from the completion of such consultation and assessment except in a medical emergency as set forth in § 34-23A-10.1 and subdivision 34-23A-1(5). No physician may have the pregnant mother sign a consent for the abortion on the day of this initial consultation. No physician may take a signed consent from the pregnant mother except on the day the abortion is scheduled, and only after complying with the provisions of this Act as it pertains to the initial consultation, and only after complying with the provisions of subdivisions 34-23A-10.1(1) and (2). During the initial consultation between the physician and the pregnant mother, prior to scheduling a surgical or medical abortion, the physician shall:
The legislation continues on from there. For any who care to read.
The legislation continues on from there. For any who care to read.
Yes, I can read.......
"(3) Provide the pregnant mother with the names, addresses, and telephone numbers of all pregnancy help centers that are registered with the South Dakota Department of Health pursuant to this Act, and provide her with written instructions that set forth the following:
(a) That prior to the day of any scheduled abortion the pregnant mother must have a consultation at a pregnancy help center at which the pregnancy help center shall inform her about what education, counseling, and other assistance is available to help the pregnant mother keep and care for her child, and have a private interview to discuss her circumstances that may subject her decision to coercion;
(b) That prior to signing a consent to an abortion, the physician shall first obtain from the pregnant mother, a written statement that she obtained a consultation with a pregnancy help center, which sets forth the name and address of the pregnancy help center, the date and time of the consultation, and the name of the counselor at the pregnancy help center with whom she consulted;"
Translation: The COUNSELOR will try to talk the woman out of having an abortion. This is obvious.
".........and other assistance is available to help the pregnant mother keep and care for her child,.....
Translation: Don't worry about supporting you and your child, you can always go on welfare.
Apparently you keep missing the point where they the patient has to personally meet with the physician to council and evaluate and determine the situation.
Telling me about welfare when ohio has a bigger welfare issue than south dakota...
Apparently you keep missing the point where they the patient has to personally meet with the physician to council and evaluate and determine the situation.
Telling me about welfare when ohio has a bigger welfare issue than south dakota...
OK, the woman meets with the physician to council and evaluate and determine the situation..........then why is she required to ALSO go to a
"pregnancy help center" to be counseled again?
Why does a woman who has decided to terminate a pregnancy need to talk to a couselor about dealing with pregnancy and children? She is not going to be dealing with a pregnancy or a child......she has decided to abort.
Can't you see that the only purpose of requiring a woman to go to a "pregnancy help center" is to try to talk her into doing something she has ALREADY decided she does not want to do?
Do you think women are so mentally deficient that they are not capable of deciding whether or not they want a child without talking to a counselor?
Tell me, do YOU need to go to a couselor to decide whether or not YOU want children?
And.........what difference does it make what state a woman is in if she has to go on welfare?
Your whole justification for abortions is for welfare? That seems weak and could easily be a logical fallacy. Okay we don't want to pay welfare on your child the state mandates that you terminate your unborn child's life.
Or in applying your "logic" to to old people or those with serious illness.' They are old and of no use or they lack insurance... Therefore being you don't want to pay welfare their lives should be ended? You think that applies to expectant mothers all in the name of welfare mitigation?
But you say it is a woman' choice. Re read the second sentence of the 1st paragraph. The state order you to terminate the life of your child. Wait... What about the right of the mother? The state just yanked it away.
The fact that another life is an inconvenience as justification... Applying that standard, I find you as a drain and an inconvenience therefore I can terminate your life. I'd like to see that applied to a homicide case.
The law while it has some points that I would disagree with. However the expectant mother should be advised of any implications both physically and physiologically and also that there should not be any coercion. Also that risk factors for having the procedure be done. If its a woman's choice shouldn't she at least all the facts for her to ponder.
I don't like roger for other reasons. But he should be about term limited out.
And Oldman you have Frank Klochek that you all keep sending to Pierre.
I just love how all those who have never stepped foot in South Dakota or can even find it on a map love to discuss our politics.
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