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Old 05-04-2024, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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To those who blame the Great Society welfare programs starting in 1965 as where the problem of illegitimacy in black communities started. What was the black illegitimacy situation before 1965?

Here's Daniel Patrick Moynihan in a 1965 interview talking about the issues facing Black families. Illegitimacy seemed to be an issue before 1965.

Excellent study. I wonder how it was received nationwide. Wonder how it’s received now .
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Old Yesterday, 12:17 AM
 
Location: The 719
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I gotta congratulate the liberals for destroying the black community. Well done! The KKK tried and failed. The liberals succeeded.

...oh, they were the same people.
Right.

History books are fuzzy about this, huh?

So is the Lamestream Blamestream Fakestream mainstream media.

But some of us know.

It's amazing how well victimhood sells and the consequences thereof.
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Old Yesterday, 12:49 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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To those who blame the Great Society welfare programs starting in 1965 as where the problem of illegitimacy in black communities started. What was the black illegitimacy situation before 1965?

Here's Daniel Patrick Moynihan in a 1965 interview talking about the issues facing Black families. Illegitimacy seemed to be an issue before 1965.

The nonmarital birthrate for blacks hovered around 20% for decades before 1960. For whites, it was 2%. This was during a time when there was a high degree of stigma attached to having children out of wedlock (at least, among the majority.)

Today, it's about 70% for blacks and 30% for whites and there is hardly any stigma at all (for some people.)
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Old Yesterday, 05:46 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Excellent study. I wonder how it was received nationwide. Wonder how it’s received now .
The most striking things about the Moynihan report are:

1. How little these facts about family breakdown have changed over the last 60 years (except they have gotten a lot worse)

2. How rarely any of this is discussed in the liberal media

Another landmark study from the same era was the Coleman report about school inequality in America.

That was buried even more.
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Old Yesterday, 05:56 AM
 
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Women who screw like rabbits without protection are practicing "stupid sex."

It's always fallen on women to be the smarter ones and protect themselves from unwanted pregnancy. The consequences of pregnancy were severe until recently, so women were extra careful.

Today? No biggie. There's no social stigma (in some circles) and the taxpayers provide financial support for 18 years.
Most of these girls are very young, sometimes 14, 15. I was far from smart at that age, I was an idiot who thought I knew everything. And I lost my father at a young age which led me to seek male love and approval, and led to some awful decisions, which I’m sure applies to many of these girls too. These older guys say they love you and want to take care of you, I understand more than most how hard that is to resist because you want to believe it so badly.

It’s not about the sex, IMO.
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Old Yesterday, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Never in my life have I ever heard anyone call sex stupid.
Unprotected sex outside of marriage is stupid. Unprotected sex as a teen is stupid. Unprotected sex with a sex worker or as a sex worker is stupid.

This is why the left is pro-choice.

Sex is absolutely stupid is certain circumstances
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Old Yesterday, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Unprotected sex outside of marriage is stupid. Unprotected sex as a teen is stupid. Unprotected sex with a sex worker or as a sex worker is stupid.

This is why the left is pro-choice.

Sex is absolutely stupid is certain circumstances
Along with the left, a relatively large number of right leaning women support reproductive freedom. Growing up during a time when abortion was illegal I saw a lot of young women get abortions under the guise of a "D&C", politics had nothing to do with it - it was about young women not being forced to raise a child when she's not yet an adult herself.
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Old Yesterday, 01:05 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Along with the left, a relatively large number of right leaning women support reproductive freedom. Growing up during a time when abortion was illegal I saw a lot of young women get abortions under the guise of a "D&C", politics had nothing to do with it - it was about young women not being forced to raise a child when she's not yet an adult herself.
Why can't they just use birth control?

95% of unintended pregnancies are due to women's voluntary participation in unprotected sex during the cycle in which they conceived, by their own admission. What did they think was going to happen???

Pregnancy rate:

Using birth control: 5% (average of all methods)
Unprotected sex: 85%
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Old Yesterday, 01:12 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I found some figures that differs from yours
the issue was nonmarital births, not total births. You posted the wrong data.
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Old Yesterday, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Why can't they just use birth control?

95% of unintended pregnancies are due to women's voluntary participation in unprotected sex during the cycle in which they conceived, by their own admission. What did they think was going to happen???

Pregnancy rate:

Using birth control: 5% (average of all methods)
Unprotected sex: 85%
By your own admission it results in pregnancy 5% of the time.
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