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Old 05-31-2012, 08:55 AM
 
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bloomberg is a nutcase.
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:57 AM
 
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Nick...I agree with you..the government has no place or right to tell you what to eat. So please sign a release from any and all handouts from the government should you get sick from your poor lifestyle choices. You will be FREE to make every choice you want.. and FREE to pay for those repurcussions YOURSELF. THAT IS FREEDOM...otherwise you are just spewing rhetoric....you want freedom so long as you have no responsibility/repercussions and the government will pay for you when you need them.

So American citizens should need a permission slip from the government to drink a Pepsi? People shouldn't be allowed to drink or smoke because some politicians don't like it? Its bad enough that our government is taking away our freedoms with the Patriot Act, the SOPA bill, indefinite detention, waterboarding, oil wars, etc....but now they're convincing people to let them regulate what we eat?


You give them an inch and they take a mile. Obama smokes, is he leeching off the system and wasting tax payer money?
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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HIV patients cost taxpayer's a lot of money too, should we ban ****ing?
HIV and AIDs are not on the top ten list of causes of death. FASTSTATS - Leading Causes of Death.
Heart disease, strokes, diabetes, and kidney diseases are 4 out the top ten causes of death. Many HIV positive patients aren't dying from AIDS anymore because of the drugs available. Now they live longer and come to the hospital for the same things HIV negative people do...one of the ten causes of death.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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Bloomberg is only attacking what he can get away with. In all honesty (and I own a car) if the government wants to really see some money this is all they have to do:

Raise gas prices
Legalize marijuana
Legalize prostitution

Lets face it, the 1% wants to have their cake and eat it too.
Healthcare is expensive as it is in this country already, even if you have insurance. Something's gotta give.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:05 AM
 
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We now live in a society where the government (aka taxpayers) must pay for you and your choices. When you eat/drink high fat/high calorie foods and have a heart attack at 45 and are now "disabled", the government (aka taxpayers) provide you money (disability check, SSI check), pay for your housing, and all your medical care FOR LIFE. What happened to all that freedom again...now everyone has to take care of you. You only want freedom when it is convenient for you, and so long as there is no risk/responsibility/repurcussions. That is not freedom that is a fantasy.

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Typical Health Nazi BS. Lets see who pays for your healthy live-forever lifestyle when you are 80 years old, senile, peeing in your pants, drooling out your mouth and don't have a dime saved for a nursing facility because you spent your career at Staryucks and had to rent that $3,000 a month closet you call an apartment.

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Old 05-31-2012, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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No authority, be that religious or secular, can tell anyone what he or she can do with his own body.

End of story...
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Bloomberg is only attacking what he can get away with.
And it's only taken him two and a half terms to figure out that if he stays within those boundaries, he doesn't get nearly as much criticism. (The man has to be one of the most thin-skinned officeholders in the country!)

I still believe he has Presidential aspirations, although I can't imagine who's going to vote for him other than his ultra-rich pals.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:08 AM
 
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HIV and AIDs are not on the top ten list of causes of death. FASTSTATS - Leading Causes of Death.
Heart disease, strokes, diabetes, and kidney diseases are 4 out the top ten causes of death. Many HIV positive patients aren't dying from AIDS anymore because of the drugs available. Now they live longer and come to the hospital for the same things HIV negative people do...one of the ten causes of death.
It may not be on the top 10 list but it still costs a ton of money to treat AIDS patients. Not only that, but you're forgetting the fact that these sick people also paid into Medicaid/care and Social Security their entire working lives.

Head trauma caused by car accidents and sports injuries can have long term effects i.e. seizures, post concussion symptoms, brain damage, etc. Does that mean we should ban sports and cars?
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:14 AM
 
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OK lets bring this conversation back to reality. You do realize smoking is not illegal right? Bloomberg did not outlaw smoking. You do realize he is not outlawing soda right? He is outlawing the SIZE.

So the anti-government tea-party people can sit back down in their medicare paid for hoverround, take a deep breath in their government paid for oxygen tank, and maybe take a couple of their high blood pressure bills, courtesy of the government too of course.

If you want freedom, and people/authority not telling you what to do...I AGREE WITH YOU. But that isn't what you want. You want FREEDOM and nobody/authority telling you what to do...that is until you get lung cancer from smoking 3 packs a day, or a heartattack at 45 from eating Mcdonalds 5x a week, or get a permanent brain injury because you don't wear a seat belt. Then freedom has nothing to do with anything...the government (aka taxpayers) should take care of you!

So which is it? So please, if you want freedom and nobody telling you what to do, you should be responsible for those repercussions and get private insurance to take care of you and your own source of income to support you when all that "freedom" doesn't turn out the way you planned. Otherwise, you are just spewing rhetoric and being completely hypocritical.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:19 AM
 
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NickNYR is taking logic, rolling it up into a nice little ball, and shoving it up the collective arse's of the nanny bloomberg supporters here.
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