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Old 12-13-2011, 01:20 PM
 
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I wonder if I get the property with a loan owned occupied, and rent the house.
How picky is the bank with that?? is that possible? does people do that? How hard they are going to hit me??
A consideration to take is that is the only property I would have.
Always considering that I'm on time with payments and no problems with the house!
could someone comment on this based on experience?
Thank you

 
Old 12-13-2011, 03:57 PM
 
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This is clear cut case of fraud. The intent of about half a dozen documents that you sign when you borrow money to buy a house is to reassure the lender and the secondary market that you are not a landlord who has about a 30x greater default rate than run-of-the-mill owner/occupants...

Worst case the lender calls your loan and asks a Federal prosecutor to charge you with fraud. (though honestly the odds of that are remote...)

More likely the lender may find out that you are not in fact living in the place, force you to refinance at non-owner occupied rates (which are about 2.00 percentage points higher) AND require you to come up with a MUCH more substantial downpayment.

Insurancce could get messed up / denied.


Not really worth the risk if you have any other options...
 
Old 12-13-2011, 05:29 PM
 
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If the bank has a proper appraisal done you would be quickly found out.
 
Old 12-20-2011, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Austin
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As said on your previous thread with the same question, THIS IS MORTGAGE FRAUD plain and simple.
 
Old 12-21-2011, 01:11 AM
 
Location: Rural Michigan
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Originally Posted by chet everett View Post
This is clear cut case of fraud. The intent of about half a dozen documents that you sign when you borrow money to buy a house is to reassure the lender and the secondary market that you are not a landlord who has about a 30x greater default rate than run-of-the-mill owner/occupants...

Worst case the lender calls your loan and asks a Federal prosecutor to charge you with fraud. (though honestly the odds of that are remote...)

More likely the lender may find out that you are not in fact living in the place, force you to refinance at non-owner occupied rates (which are about 2.00 percentage points higher) AND require you to come up with a MUCH more substantial downpayment.

Insurancce could get messed up / denied.


Not really worth the risk if you have any other options...
It might be a "clear cut" case of fraud, but it doesn't seem to be prosecuted at all in my area.

The former owner of my home signed three "owner occupied" fannie-mae mortgages with the same lender on the same day, at the same title office. He ended up losing two of them to foreclosure, no doubt he got a "loan mod" on the third - I haven't read his name in the paper as of yet for loan fraud, but we can hope, right?
 
Old 12-21-2011, 03:35 PM
 
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As said on your previous thread with the same question, THIS IS MORTGAGE FRAUD plain and simple.
This is the best answer to the OP's question and, with that, I'm closing the thread.
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