H1B corporate crime against american workers (business, green card)
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They aren't "highly talented". If they were, there is a special visa program that they can tap into. Most H1-Bs, at best, range from mediocre to downright incompetent. Do you know how they are taught in India? The instructor hands them a textbook and tells them to memorize it. Thus, they don't learn things like critical thinking or thinking outside the box.
They certainly have displaced Americans, as I explained to you previously. To say otherwise, is a falsehood.
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Remember what a flop the first obama insurance roll out was? They hired non-Americans to develop the software but after the huge flop which costs the taxpayers plenty, Americans had to rescue and clean up their mess. Besides poor quality work ethic, they often bring their disdain for Americans and our culture resulting discrimination in housing, education, and hiring practices. Yes, that is illegal but American laws are just flipped off by them. I have seen this many times in the Bay Area. At a college district I worked at they just called it a non-white admissions and hiring bias since they are not racists.... Sadly, this scam is also infecting our health care system.
But if you look at the details, Disney did not hire these people that the plaintiffs were allegedly asked to train.
Disney outsourced the work to a third party agency.
This is some pointless hair-splitting, because the outcome is exactly the same.
Why can a company that relies heavily on H1Bs underbid US workers? Because H1B visa holders have to remain employed with the sponsor or get deported. Imagine a company holding that sort of power over an employee - they can squeeze every last workhour out of them at the lowest possible rate, and they do.
The good thing about tech work is there's no shortage of jobs. Competent people will get hired.
That's just not the case. Sure, mid-level and high-level jobs are notoriously short on qualified applicants. But the entry level jobs - the ones where people out of college can cut their teeth on real-life problems, make their mistakes, get the battle scars that every IT professional has - those jobs are in Bangalore.
There's no replacement for actual experience. None. And we're not letting people build experience stateside.
Foreign students may be well trained for a specific job skill but are not trained in analytical thinking or real world applications so their usefulness is limited.
Attitude is also a problem since they are brain washed into thinking they are superior to all Americans but don't have skills solve their own problems. I remember watching one guy pound the table because he wanted to buy a house in the Bay Area but would lose out because he didn't understand the market place. He wanted to live in a new million dollar home but didn't understand why someone else should sell it to him for less than market value. Sadly, he is still knocking one American out of a job but did marry a rich woman whose family put up the money for his first time buyer palace.
This is some pointless hair-splitting, because the outcome is exactly the same.
Why can a company that relies heavily on H1Bs underbid US workers? Because H1B visa holders have to remain employed with the sponsor or get deported. Imagine a company holding that sort of power over an employee - they can squeeze every last workhour out of them at the lowest possible rate, and they do.
Exactly right.
Which is why the H1B visa should be abolished and replaced with skill-based conditional LPR sponsorships that make foreign workers:
1. Cost more than domestic peers with a minimum required salary much higher than the going rate for that job + extra administrative fees to USCIS.
2. Able to leave the company whenever they please, so they can negotiate wages just as aggressively as American workers.
3. Provide a pathway to citizenship with some basic requirements; gainfully employed, paying taxes, no public assistance, no criminal convictions.
Implement that, and I bet 90% of the tech companies that "can't find qualified American workers" would suddenly discover a great big pool of them, rather than pay double the wages to import a foreigner who could switch companies just as easily as an American.
Of the young people that we know, Eastside Seattle,
one Canadian UToronto, computer science; Hired out of school.
one Canadian UWaterloo, computer science; Hired out of school.
one Chinese, MSCS-Northwestern U.
one Chinese, MSCS-Columbia U.
one English-Turkish, MSCS-UOxford England.
one Brazilian, don't no his school, but it is in CS.
one American, don't no her school, but she recently changed jobs for more money after 5 years at big software.
Our own is CS from CarnegieMellon and CSMS Toronto. He does product research and not code. Citizen.
No idea on the other's status but probably H1B.
It seems to me that US schools cannot produce enough CS people or that American students don't want to do CS work. All above are paid very well and had substantial raises this year.
YMMV
We're not talking about employers who hire American workers, and fill in the remaining open slots with applicants from outside the US. We're talking about companies that replace US workers en masse with foreign labor. Or perhaps, as at least one poster implied, they don't even bother to interview American applicants; their headhunters only take Asian or South Asian applicants, or foreign applicants, whether Russian, Romanian, Korean, South Asian, or whatever.
You do realize that you're posting what the plaintiff and their lawyer are claiming, right?
But if you look at the details, Disney did not hire these people that the plaintiffs were allegedly asked to train.
Disney outsourced the work to a third party agency.
As the plaintiffs said (and their attorney agreed), everything was legal and thus there was no crime.
This is the issue; whether it's done through a 3rd party or not, the result is the same. Disney (like some other companies) fired US workers, and replaced them with foreign labor. They were on Disney's payroll, ergo--Disney employed them, no matter who actually did the hiring. The law needs to be changed, to protect American jobs. Laying off masses of people in one profession undermines our economy.
Corporations have no loyalty to the US and its workers, which ultimately will only undermine the corporations' own bottom line, because fewer citizens will be able to buy their products. It makes no sense, and is very self-destructive for the US to allow a blatant misuse of the program.
Hewlett Packard brought in foreign workers to be trained by the people they were replacing and then sent the jobs out of the U.S.. It was totally sickening for decent Americans to live through. Today, even fast food jobs are being filled by robots so those coming here will not get what those liberals promised. Surprise, surprise! Expect no sympathy, but I'm sure they will peacefully protest when other people's money runs out.
This is the issue; whether it's done through a 3rd party or not, the result is the same. Disney (like some other companies) fired US workers, and replaced them with foreign labor. They were on Disney's payroll, ergo--Disney employed them, no matter who actually did the hiring. The law needs to be changed, to protect American jobs. Laying off masses of people in one profession undermines our economy.
Corporations have no loyalty to the US and its workers, which ultimately will only undermine the corporations' own bottom line, because fewer citizens will be able to buy their products. It makes no sense, and is very self-destructive for the US to allow a blatant misuse of the program.
Disney simply outsourced the work. It makes sense to outsource work... America is built on outsourcing.
It's not Disney's fault the outsourcing agency has a business model that involves H1B labor.
That being said, this is becoming a non-issue. Importing labor is not so necessary in a connected world. Disney can do what Adobe, Ford, and other companies did decades ago and just open up an offices in Mexico, India, etc..
Do people still believe that? You can't believe everything you read on Facebook. Disney did not hire H1Bs to replace American employees. Look into the details of what happened and don't go by clickbait headlines.
[COLOR=var(--color-content-secondary,#363636)]Even after Leo Perrero was laid off a year ago from his technology job at Walt Disney World in Orlando, Fla. — and spent his final months there training a temporary immigrant from India to do his work — he still hoped to find a new position in the vast entertainment company.[/color]
[COLOR=var(--color-content-secondary,#363636)]But Mr. Perrero discovered that despite his high performance ratings, he and most of the other 250 tech workers Disney dismissed would not be rehired for at least a year, and probably never.[/color]
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