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Old 01-18-2022, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Yes, fortunately Canada is continuing to do quite well, and I agree with you about greater ease for entry. With some of the newer immigration policies put in place recently it's becoming a lot easier to qualify and there is a boom in immigration.

This is a New Year's Day article published today about that: https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/immigr...ream-1.5693991

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That writer is an idiot. He mentions that the American dream is no longer a bachelor's degree but fails to mention that you must have a bachelors degree to emigrate to Canada.

He is trying very hard to convince himself.
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Old 01-18-2022, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Southwest
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That writer is an idiot. He mentions that the American dream is no longer a bachelor's degree but fails to mention that you must have a bachelors degree to emigrate to Canada.

He is trying very hard to convince himself.
I never heard of a person needing a bachelors degree to emigrate to any country. I wonder if there are other countries like that.
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Old 01-18-2022, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Southwest
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People coming here from Europe are probably more sensitive than the typical American. If they feel they are not treated well, it could be due to them not being used to interacting with us. Also, isn't it more cut-throat here than Europe, generally speaking?
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Old 01-18-2022, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Canada
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That writer is an idiot. He mentions that the American dream is no longer a bachelor's degree but fails to mention that you must have a bachelors degree to emigrate to Canada.

He is trying very hard to convince himself.
Perhaps the writer failed to mention it because, although it is often preferable, it's not necessarily essential to have a bachelors degree to immigrate to Canada. It is however essential to have the skills and experience that are in demand in Canada and there are many skills in demand that come without bachelor's degrees. There are a lot of other qualifications, skills and work experiences, knowledge about Canada and attitude (the right attitude is extremely important) that must get factored in to determine if applicants are eligible for Canada's immigration programs. There are many, many recent new immigrants in Canada who don't have bachelor's degrees.

I do think the writer makes a huge mistake in equating Canada with a "new American Dream" though, s/he has a bit of an ignorant Pollyanna attitude about that and doesn't understand Canadians and Americans very well. Generally speaking the majority of Americans wouldn't want to immigrate to Canada, the very idea is repugnant to them. I don't think the writer has a clue about how much lack of awareness and the attitude of disdain most Americans have for Canada. I also don't think s/he realizes how much that Canadians would resent Canada being referred to as the "new American Dream" as if s/he thinks Americans might consider it to be some kind of new unexplored territory for pioneer Americans to colonize and take conquest over. LOL.

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Old 01-18-2022, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Southwest
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...I do think the writer makes a huge mistake in equating Canada with a "new American Dream" though, s/he has a bit of an ignorant Pollyanna attitude about that and doesn't understand Canadians and Americans very well. Generally speaking the majority of Americans wouldn't want to immigrate to Canada, the very idea is repugnant to them. I don't think the writer has a clue about how much lack of awareness and the attitude of disdain most Americans have for Canada. I also don't think s/he realizes that Canadians would resent being referred to as the "new American Dream" as if s/he thinks Americans might consider it to be some kind of new unexplored territory for pioneer Americans to colonize and take conquest over. LOL.

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I didn't know most Americans have feelings of disdain for Canada, though I can't recall conversing about Canada with many people. My feeling about our neighbor up north is taxes are higher and they provide more services, like Europe. Also, Quebec is different than the other provinces.
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Old 01-19-2022, 12:36 PM
 
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...isn't it more cut-throat here than Europe, generally speaking?
I don't know about that. I don't think so. But...

It is very different. In Europe you have higher taxes but access to medical/doctors etc, free education, social assistance, money for rent, children etc, etc, pension etc. In the US you are suddenly put in a new, different situation. You have never experienced this. You can't get ill, you can't afford to make mistakes. And you don't have anyone, no one, no relatives, no friends in the beginning, not a soul. So you can get homeless in no time.

In Europe some people take advantage of the help that the state offers. It happens more and more. It's not OK. Then, you have access to the doctors but can be a long list and a long time/moths until you can see a specialist. I have a friend in Germany, she had some severe depression and could not see a psychiatrist, was put on a list for 9 months. This was some 4-5 years ago.

Personally, I would like to see the day when in the US, there will be some sort of free medical insurance for all people. I think it is humane to be like that. We'll have to pay higher taxes for it. I don't know what other viable solution to find. I'm not a democrat but I appreciate some of their ideas. Because of Obama care and all discussion about it, in the media and everywhere, people on the left and the right (politicians too) have started to discuss more about this issue.

Anyway...this is for another topic.
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Old 01-19-2022, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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I do think the writer makes a huge mistake in equating Canada with a "new American Dream" though, s/he has a bit of an ignorant Pollyanna attitude about that and doesn't understand Canadians and Americans very well. Generally speaking the majority of Americans wouldn't want to immigrate to Canada, the very idea is repugnant to them. I don't think the writer has a clue about how much lack of awareness and the attitude of disdain most Americans have for Canada. I also don't think s/he realizes how much that Canadians would resent Canada being referred to as the "new American Dream" as if s/he thinks Americans might consider it to be some kind of new unexplored territory for pioneer Americans to colonize and take conquest over. LOL.

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As an American, I've never met another American that finds Canada repugnant. I personally think the only turnoff would be the colder weather. I can't imagine Bostonians would move further north. Canada is a very beautiful country.

I can absolutely understand Canadians not wanting to be referred to as the New American Dream.

I deal with a lot of Canadians in what I do. For the most part they are lovely people. However, Quebec citizens, notsomuch.
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Old 01-19-2022, 06:52 PM
 
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I don't know about that. I don't think so. But...

It is very different. In Europe you have higher taxes but access to medical/doctors etc, free education, social assistance, money for rent, children etc, etc, pension etc. In the US you are suddenly put in a new, different situation. You have never experienced this. You can't get ill, you can't afford to make mistakes. And you don't have anyone, no one, no relatives, no friends in the beginning, not a soul. So you can get homeless in no time.

In Europe some people take advantage of the help that the state offers. It happens more and more. It's not OK. Then, you have access to the doctors but can be a long list and a long time/moths until you can see a specialist. I have a friend in Germany, she had some severe depression and could not see a psychiatrist, was put on a list for 9 months. This was some 4-5 years ago.

Personally, I would like to see the day when in the US, there will be some sort of free medical insurance for all people. I think it is humane to be like that. We'll have to pay higher taxes for it. I don't know what other viable solution to find. I'm not a democrat but I appreciate some of their ideas. Because of Obama care and all discussion about it, in the media and everywhere, people on the left and the right (politicians too) have started to discuss more about this issue.

Anyway...this is for another topic.
And this is all last year's snow. Sorry.
The access to medical/education/assistance in Europe? What/where is Europe?
I am a first generation European immigrant and have no issues with your issues.
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Old 01-20-2022, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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As an American, I've never met another American that finds Canada repugnant. I personally think the only turnoff would be the colder weather. I can't imagine Bostonians would move further north. Canada is a very beautiful country.

I can absolutely understand Canadians not wanting to be referred to as the New American Dream.

I deal with a lot of Canadians in what I do. For the most part they are lovely people. However, Quebec citizens, notsomuch.
Agree. Most of what Americans think about Canada is that it is too cold weather-wise- not that they hate it for other reasons.

As for Quebec, I had a wonderful time there on multiple visits- found the people lovely. Unfortunately don't speak French but that wasn't really a problem since most speak English. I was expecting to be disdained for that reason but it never happened.
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Old 01-20-2022, 10:29 AM
 
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I have a Bachelor's degree, good job, money....would I get into Canada as a single person?

Just curious. I would never leave the US.
I don't know. Probably.
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