Johnson County now accounts for over 30% of the states economy, having the most jobs, highest income and highest density (Overland Park: apartment)

[Joco a world class city]

Out of the 105 counties in Kansas, Johnson county alone accounts for more than 30% of the states GDP. It’s also the most densely populated and has the highest incomes and most jobs now.

GDP by County https://www.bea.gov/sites/default/fi.../lagdp1223.pdf

Jobs and income Johnson vs Sedgwick

Johnson median household income = 103,664$ jobs=340,364 https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...nsas/PST045222

Sedgwick median household income = 65,372$ jobs=224,582 https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...nsas/PST045223

Density by county
Map shows density of all counties https://maps.geo.census.gov/ddmv/map.html

[AnywhereElse]

Don't forget to mention that minimum wage in KS is still $7.25 an hour, and that the lower wages employees have to live outside Johnson County and carpool in. One of the biggest mistakes that I have seen people make is that they don't think about "the cost of living", as they simply see the wages and don't realize there is a reason for the wage to be the high, as in what it costs to live in that county or city. I saw a lot of young people begging for money to get back home after moving to the Tucson area, realizing they could not find a job that paid enough to live there. It was sad, as most had one or two kids.

https://www.taxdefensenetwork.com/st...f%20%242%2C664.

"The median property tax in Kansas is approximately $1,625 annually. Johnson County has the highest property tax at an average of $2,664. The lowest amount is $594 in Osborne County."

https://www.zillow.com/home-values/1...son-county-ks/

"The average Johnson County home value is $414,016, up 5.2% over the past year and goes to pending in around 5 days."

https://livingwage.mit.edu/counties/20091

A living wage per the chart for 1 single individual with 0 child is $22.89.

NEVER RELOCATE WITHOUT A JOB AND A PLACE TO LIVE, or have a plan how to get back where you came from if necessary.

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by AnywhereElse

Don't forget to mention that minimum wage in KS is still $7.25 an hour, and that the lower wages employees have to live outside Johnson County and carpool in. One of the biggest mistakes that I have seen people make is that they don't think about "the cost of living", as they simply see the wages and don't realize there is a reason for the wage to be the high, as in what it costs to live in that county or city. I saw a lot of young people begging for money to get back home after moving to the Tucson area, realizing they could not find a job that paid enough to live there. It was sad, as most had one or two kids.

https://www.taxdefensenetwork.com/st...f%20%242%2C664.

"The median property tax in Kansas is approximately $1,625 annually. Johnson County has the highest property tax at an average of $2,664. The lowest amount is $594 in Osborne County."

https://www.zillow.com/home-values/1...son-county-ks/

"The average Johnson County home value is $414,016, up 5.2% over the past year and goes to pending in around 5 days."

https://livingwage.mit.edu/counties/20091

A living wage per the chart for 1 single individual with 0 child is $22.89.

NEVER RELOCATE WITHOUT A JOB AND A PLACE TO LIVE, or have a plan how to get back where you came from if necessary.

Mentioning the minimum wage when that isn't what basic jobs are paying in JOCO is pretty misleading. It would be like me claiming that people drive 55 around the Chicago interstates because that's the limit.

I do agree that JOCO isn't cheap.

[Joco a world class city]

Originally Posted by AnywhereElse

Don't forget to mention that minimum wage in KS is still $7.25 an hour, and that the lower wages employees have to live outside Johnson County and carpool in. One of the biggest mistakes that I have seen people make is that they don't think about "the cost of living", as they simply see the wages and don't realize there is a reason for the wage to be the high, as in what it costs to live in that county or city. I saw a lot of young people begging for money to get back home after moving to the Tucson area, realizing they could not find a job that paid enough to live there. It was sad, as most had one or two kids.

https://www.taxdefensenetwork.com/st...f%20%242%2C664.

"The median property tax in Kansas is approximately $1,625 annually. Johnson County has the highest property tax at an average of $2,664. The lowest amount is $594 in Osborne County."

https://www.zillow.com/home-values/1...son-county-ks/

"The average Johnson County home value is $414,016, up 5.2% over the past year and goes to pending in around 5 days."

https://livingwage.mit.edu/counties/20091

A living wage per the chart for 1 single individual with 0 child is $22.89.

NEVER RELOCATE WITHOUT A JOB AND A PLACE TO LIVE, or have a plan how to get back where you came from if necessary.

There’s a lot of multi family in Johnson county not everyone lives in giant detached single family homes. I don’t see what your deal is with JOCO. Also you’re not comparing the property taxes by percentage but rather by total taxes paid, which is misleading in itself because the property values are much higher. I don’t know of anywhere in Johnson county that still pays minimum wage or even close to it and don’t know why you keep mentioning that. You can go get a starting job at Costco for 16$ an hour with great benefits and live in an apartment. Then buy a used car instead of buying a brand new one that has the newest gadgets on your dash to try to impress people. You can easily get a good job in JOCO , live in an apartment and work your way up because there is a lot of opportunities there. it’s really not what you’re making it seem like.

[mshultz]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

Mentioning the minimum wage when that isn't what basic jobs are paying in JOCO is pretty misleading. It would be like me claiming that people drive 55 around the Chicago interstates because that's the limit.

I do agree that JOCO isn't cheap.

2024 Ohio minimum wage is $10.45, but few, if any employees are being paid that amount.

[GraniteStater]

JOCO has gotten very crowded over time with far too much traffic, to go along with all the other issues of excessive growth that many don’t want in the first place. All that spread out suburban infrastructure is starting to need larger repairs, lots of $$$ to maintain.

[Joco a world class city]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

JOCO has gotten very crowded over time with far too much traffic, to go along with all the other issues of excessive growth that many don’t want in the first place. All that spread out suburban infrastructure is starting to need larger repairs, lots of $$$ to maintain.

I think that’s one of the reasons they are adding so much multi family. They are getting much more tax revenue per acre. The trade off for that is that traffic counts are higher but that happens anywhere that becomes large and successful. Places like Overland Park and Olathe and most Johnson county cities are actually denser than Kansas City, mo. That’s a big reason why kcmo has so many pothole issues and trash along the highways and Johnson county seems much cleaner. JOCO isn’t as spread out as you probably think especially compared to other places in Kansas/Missouri.

Kcmo filth issues https://www.kctv5.com/2023/08/21/kan...outputType=amp

Kcmo and kck ranked worst for pothole issues https://www.kctv5.com/2024/02/23/stu...outputType=amp

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

JOCO has gotten very crowded over time with far too much traffic, to go along with all the other issues of excessive growth that many don’t want in the first place. All that spread out suburban infrastructure is starting to need larger repairs, lots of $$$ to maintain.

Well, if we are being forthright here, you don't like KS and aren't providing any links supporting your position.

Since the premise of City data is to help people learn and educate themselves to an area I think that people moving there deserve a level, informed and supported view of a place.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

Well, if we are being forthright here, you don't like KS and aren't providing any links supporting your position.

Since the premise of City data is to help people learn and educate themselves to an area I think that people moving there deserve a level, informed and supported view of a place.

Johnson County has plenty of high paying jobs and educated populace compared to many areas of the country. It also has high cost of living and other related issues that go along with being a high-end corporate suburban area. They are all irrefutable facts. I was just there last year, traffic is far worse on I-435 and I-35 compared to 20 years ago. If people are moving to JOCO and expecting Kansas to be “cheap,” they haven’t done very much research. If working remotely, there are plenty of areas to live in with less expensive housing costs in the state.

[Joco a world class city]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

Johnson County has plenty of high paying jobs and educated populace compared to many areas of the country. It also has high cost of living and other related issues that go along with being a high-end corporate suburban area. They are all irrefutable facts. I was just there last year, traffic is far worse on I-435 and I-35 compared to 20 years ago. If people are moving to JOCO and expecting Kansas to be “cheap,” they haven’t done very much research. If working remotely, there are plenty of areas to live in with less expensive housing costs in the state.

Traffic is worse In Johnson county than the rest of the metro. This is because of more jobs and a higher population density. Of course there are cheaper places to live in Kansas. There’s not as many amenities in the rest of the state. The cost of living in JOCO is still only 6.2% higher than the national average. Compare that to Orange County California which is 165% more than the national or Fairfax county which is 49.7 % higher than the national average. Of course desirable places will cost more. Johnson county is still a cheap option for someone moving from west or east costs who wants a place with good job opportunities and low crime and a much better income to cost of living ratio. Median household income in Orange County is 106K$ Johnson county is 103K$ for example. It’s WAY easier and cheaper to live in Johnson county than most of California.


Median household income Johnson county https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...nsas/PST045223

Median household income Orange County https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...rnia/PST045223