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I never understood why that Muslims hold to the idea that just because Mohammad is the very last prophet to come - why then does this mean that Muslims do not need to preserve the Torah and Gospels that the Quran declared that existed with Mohammad and the Muslims at His time.
Why did Muslims not preserve a single gospel or Old Testament scripture ?
Why did Muslims not translate a single gospel or Old Testament scripture ?
Why did Muslims not place the Torah and gospels that the Quran mentions as "so vitally important into the body of the Quran ? Why are they thrown away or lost ? if Gospels and Torah or any scriptures existed that confirmed the message of the Quran.
Good questions.
Some very simple answers.
By the time Muhammad(saws) was born Hebrew had ceased to be a spoken language for nearly 1000 years and had been replaced with Aramaic.
The Gospels are not scripture, but are accounts by the apostles and like all eye-witness accounts are subject to error. The oldest known Bibles were in Koin Greek
By the time Muhammad(saws) was born Hebrew had ceased to be a spoken language for nearly 1000 years and had been replaced with Aramaic.
The Gospels are not scripture, but are accounts by the apostles and like all eye-witness accounts are subject to error. The oldest known Bibles were in Koin Greek
Oddly the oldest known Bible in Hebrew was not written until 930 AD, Nearly 300 years after Muhammad(saws)
"The Aleppo Codex, the oldest Hebrew Bible that has survived to modern times, was created by scribes called Masoretes in Tiberias, Israel around 930 C.E. As such, the Aleppo Codex is considered to be the most authoritative copy of the Hebrew Bible. The Aleppo Codex is not complete, however, as almost 200 pages went missing between 1947 and 1957."
Thank you for the information, Woodrow. I continue to learn from you.
I don't know if you know, but I've been working for a Muslim family-owned engineering business for the past year. Pakistani immigrants who have been here since the 1980s and their American-born son.
You spoke in the past about Islam being a way of life, a way of conducting one's self. I have been fortunate to see that way of life in my current employers, in the way they run their business.
Oddly the oldest known Bible in Hebrew was not written until 930 AD, Nearly 300 years after Muhammad(saws)
Using the link you provide, we see that "The Dead Sea Scrolls date between 250 B.C.E. and 68 C.E. and represent the largest group of Second Temple Jewish literature ever discovered. The Dead Sea Scrolls contain two types of documents: fragments of the oldest Hebrew Bible texts and writings that—most scholars argue—describe the beliefs and practices of a community of Jews living and writing at the nearby settlement of Qumran."
That time period is 860 yearsbefore Muhamd had his visions.
Using the link you provide, we see that "The Dead Sea Scrolls date between 250 B.C.E. and 68 C.E. and represent the largest group of Second Temple Jewish literature ever discovered. The Dead Sea Scrolls contain two types of documents: fragments of the oldest Hebrew Bible texts and writings that—most scholars argue—describe the beliefs and practices of a community of Jews living and writing at the nearby settlement of Qumran."
That time period is 860 yearsbefore Muhamd had his visions.
That is true. But for all practical purposes they were no longer known until they were found in 1946
God is not a man. Exalted is God. God is a Personal Being Who is Fully Alive, with Absolute consciousness and awareness and will and agency and intention, and as such, God interacts with His creation and creates relationship with any human He wants (the relationship God creates with a human, by His Grace, is Great and Beautiful), and so you have Jesus reffering to God as his Father.
God is a Living and Existing Being with Living attributes (all beautiful names and attributes belongs to God). I testify and bear witness (to myself and anyone and anything) that God is Alive and that God exists. And so did God, rightfully, say to Moses, My Name is I Am.
194:0.3 (2059.3) These men had been trained and instructed that the gospel which they should preach was the fatherhood of God and the sonship of man, but at just this moment of spiritual ecstasy and personal triumph, the best tidings, the greatest news, these men could think of was the fact of the risen Master. And so they went forth, endowed with power from on high, preaching glad tidings to the people—even salvation through Jesus—but they unintentionally stumbled into the error of substituting some of the facts associated with the gospel for the gospel message itself. Peter unwittingly led off in this mistake, and others followed after him on down to Paul, who created a new religion out of the new version of the good news.
194:0.4 (2059.4) The gospel of the kingdom is: the fact of the fatherhood of God, coupled with the resultant truth of the sonship-brotherhood of men. Christianity, as it developed from that day, is: the fact of God as the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ, in association with the experience of believer-fellowship with the risen and glorified Christ. https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book...l-spirit-truth
195:0.1 (2069.1) THE results of Peter’s preaching on the day of Pentecost were such as to decide the future policies, and to determine the plans, of the majority of the apostles in their efforts to proclaim the gospel of the kingdom. Peter was the real founder of the Christian church; Paul carried the Christian message to the gentiles, and the Greek believers carried it to the whole Roman Empire.
195:0.2 (2069.2) Although the tradition-bound and priest-ridden Hebrews, as a people, refused to accept either Jesus’ gospel of the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man or Peter’s and Paul’s proclamation of the resurrection and ascension of Christ (subsequent Christianity), the rest of the Roman Empire was found to be receptive to the evolving Christian teachings.
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