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View Poll Results: Why are illegals migrating?
They are fleeing socialist countries for a capitalist country. 15 83.33%
They are fleeing capitalist countries for a socialist country. 3 16.67%
Voters: 18. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-02-2024, 07:41 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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...and why is no one talking about this aspect?
One of the polling choices should be "they are fleeing to a country that offers giveaways."
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Old 04-02-2024, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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...and why is no one talking about this aspect?
I vote "neither". They are coming here for "free stuff", and they generally have no idea about Socialism or Capitalism.
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Old 04-02-2024, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I vote "neither". They are coming here for "free stuff", and they generally have no idea about Socialism or Capitalism.
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Old 04-02-2024, 03:07 PM
 
Location: USA
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One of the polling choices should be "they are fleeing to a country that offers giveaways."
Of course, and the Democrat response is we have to fix those countries so the people don't move here
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Old 04-02-2024, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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They are too lazy to fix their own countries and our government is encouraging them to come here instead.
The poor Venezuelans voted for the Chavez/Maduro socialism, and now that it is a total failure they are trying to cheat their way into the big bad land of the “rich gringosâ€.

Kick them all out and let them fix their own country.
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Old 04-02-2024, 07:50 PM
 
Location: USA
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The poor Venezuelans voted for the Chavez/Maduro socialism, and now that it is a total failure they are trying to cheat their way into the big bad land of the “rich gringosâ€.

Kick them all out and let them fix their own country.
But we made their country poor and impoverished they are just getting back at us. Unfortunately it really only has a negative impact on poor American citizens
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Old 04-03-2024, 06:32 AM
 
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But we made their country poor and impoverished they are just getting back at us. Unfortunately it really only has a negative impact on poor American citizens
It is also impacting our middle class Americans.
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Old 05-11-2024, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Freebies.
I think this is it in a nutshell.

I think they are being promised all kinds of "assistance" and goodies if they will just make it here. But assistance does not mean it's permanent support. It can't be. As a country we can't afford that kind of support on a permanent basis. We already have a burgeoning welfare class. What is our government thinking?

The truth is we are not going to be able to provide all of these things they are being promised indefinitely. Some are already making "demands" because things have not met with their expectations.

What happens when the "freebies" run out? We are a broke country. Some states are calling on residents to step up and house these people. Really? Um, how about NO.

Many Americans who were born here and worked all their lives are struggling to continue to make it. Do these people think we have what we have because it was just handed to us because we were born on this soil? They're delusional in my opinion. And so is our government.
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Old 05-12-2024, 11:03 AM
 
Location: The Sunshine State of Mind
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Freebies.
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Originally Posted by Milton Friedman
"It's just obvious you can't have free immigration and a welfare state,"
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The transfer state redistributes funds from those with high-skill and high-income levels to those with lower skill levels. Low-skill immigrants become natural recipients in this process. On average, low-skill immigrant families receive $30,160 per year in government benefits and services while paying $10,573 in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of $19,587 that has to be paid by higher-income taxpayers.

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Old 05-13-2024, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Because Biden told them they could come here.

Reminder of what he said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Yh4OyQ2xw

All those sanctuary cities voted for this.

How's it feel, blue states?

Idiots.
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