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If the elites of hyper capitalist and those moderately socialist nations that rely on the former want it, there’s nothing that can be done.
Human beings have only two answers to maintaining itself; capitalism and socialism. Both of which do not support the health and/or desirability of procreating. Half assed bandaid being immigration.
Pro growth and homogeneity in the long term is impossible. Though the time frames are getting shorter and shorter for this rule.
I don't necessarily think we need more growth population or economy wise especially if it means importing millions of foreigners into our country and illegal immigration is unacceptable.
Encourage Americans to have more children with incentives if population growth is truly necessary to support our economy. We don't need a bloated economy. There are far too many low paying jobs in our country that aren't necessary. We should promote jobs that pay a liveable wage and encourage education.
Not when they won't or don't even speak English and that's what we are getting with this massive illegal immigration mess. I have nothing in common with illegal aliens or their culture and they didn't even respect our immigration laws.
I thought it was heavenly as a young person to be able to relate linguistically and culturally to those around me. Sorry that you don't agree or understand why. If I want to experience foreign cultures or languages I can always visit their countries. I don't need it in my backyard 24/7 especially from those here illegally.
Well we grew up very differently so of course we have differing comfort levels. But we’re bringing anecdotes to the table that don’t necessarily apply writ large to America.
Not when they won't or don't even speak English and that's what we are getting with this massive illegal immigration mess. I have nothing in common with illegal aliens or their culture and they didn't even respect our immigration laws.
I thought it was heavenly as a young person to be able to relate linguistically and culturally to those around me. Sorry that you don't agree or understand why. If I want to experience foreign cultures or languages I can always visit their countries. I don't need it in my backyard 24/7 especially from those here illegally.
Essentially, you are saying you are not tolerant of other cultures and want them nowhere near you. It's a good thing you didn't live in early 20th Century NYC, or any of the other large cities where people from numerous other cultures settled and helped build the US.
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Well we grew up very differently so of course we have differing comfort levels. But we’re bringing anecdotes to the table that don’t necessarily apply writ large to America.
There was a time when immigrants assimilated with it's host country. Today, many feel that the American melting pot has been replaced with the Swanson's TV Dinner model, with all groups remaining separate.
With some exceptions, most people want to be with their own people. They want to basically share the same language, similar history, heritage, and experiences, similar culture, religions, entertainment, similar morals and norms, a mostly homogeneous environment.
Most people that try to tell you that is not what they really want, are usually lying through their teeth, in my opiniion. Don't listen to what they say. Pay attention to what they do.
I have no problem with racial diversity but I do have a problem with a foreign culture taking over our identifying one via massive illegal immigration and that is what is happening in our country today. It's neither natural nor lawful.
It’s what happened when Europeans came to North America. Perfectly organic. The face of the globe has changed many times for a variety of reasons.
I thought latinos and white Americans have the same culture?
At least that is what republicans have been saying.
No Republicans have said that. The latinos coming in, economic illegals, the lower tier of their own country, do not have the same culture as Americans.
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Originally Posted by Oldglory
No, they don't and where are you getting the notion that the Republicans have said that? Latinos don't even have the same language that we do.
Perhaps that person has no idea what "culture" means?????
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Originally Posted by Leona Valley
You thought wrong and nobody’s said that. :-)
Yeah, I didn't get that either. I can't imagine anyone with any sort of functioning brain, Dem or GOP would say that.
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Originally Posted by E-Twist
Roses are red, tacos are enjoyable,
don't blame a Mexican
because you are unemployable.
No one is blaming a Mexican for anything, we are concerned about millions of unemployable, non-English speaking, backgrounds unchecked economic seeking illegal aliens and fake asylum seekers costing us billions, moving into government housing with their anchor babies while 1/2 million people are sleeping in the streets, people are going without mental health services, infrastructure is falling apart, fentanyl is taking several lives a day after coming through the open southern border, those that hire illegals putting those out of business that follow the laws of our country because they cannot afford to compete with the illegal's wages............. Detain and deport per the law.
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Not mine. It was something I read today.
All cultures have their good and their bad. I'd be willing to trade some of our homeless panhandlers for the migrants that actually work.
Well, you are too late. Those countries south of us have opened their prisons and mental hospitals and sent the people to our country. "Homeless"? Well, sadly if they are single without children, those illegals with anchor babies will get the next available opening in public housing, so they'll be homeless and panhandling for awhile. Migrants are fine, as they are brought in on work visas and return to their countries after the work is completed, but keep in mind, we are not talking about "migrants" but illegal aliens and fake asylum seekers that are sucking down our tax dollars, and are present in violation of our laws.
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All the Mexicans I have met out west were cowboys - very conservative, family oriented, religious, blue jeans, cowboy hats, pickups.
Actually, those are most likely long time residents/citizens of our country, not illegal aliens. They are most likely not "Mexicans", but Americans of Mexican descent.
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Well their voting records say otherwise. Most Hispanics vote Democrat.
That might change somewhat, and there are several latinos making youtube videos, and they aren't supporting Biden!
And that's because most GOP politicians are racist jerks that lump all brown people together.
You are thinking of Biden and the Clintons, notorious racists. Oh, I forgot Johnson also.
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?? You can’t find common interests with people who don’t share your culture? It’s actually not that hard. But again, I grew up in a place which was heavily diverse.
Illegal aliens have a culture all their own, as they are the lower tier of their own country. Those that could not make it in their own country coming here. The uneducated, the criminals, the mentally ill, those deviant to social norms and laws. Millions of people are doing well in those countries who are sending us their undesirables. I live in a diverse area. On our street, one block, we have all races represented, some born outside the country, but no one is illegal, everyone speaks English, and you can't tell from the yard who lives inside like you can with illegals! Trust me, I know.
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Well we grew up very differently so of course we have differing comfort levels. But we’re bringing anecdotes to the table that don’t necessarily apply writ large to America.
You know what, we are talking about illegal aliens that come and take advantage of what they get from the taxpayers. Even if they work, they have often stolen the identity of American citizens. They drag down the schools in the area, and crime rises. They bring their culture, that of the lowest levels of their country to our country.
These people disrespect our laws and come with hands open to get what they can from the taxpayers. They are incapable of earning enough wages to support their families, so they drop anchor babies for the welfare check, and to get them into government housing. They turn their areas into 3rd world dives. I have seen in my current city, what their presence has brought. I saw in SE KS, and SW AZ.
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Essentially, you are saying you are not tolerant of other cultures and want them nowhere near you. It's a good thing you didn't live in early 20th Century NYC, or any of the other large cities where people from numerous other cultures settled and helped build the US.
No one said that at all. We are tired of mooching from 3rd world illegals and fake asylum seekers who don't respect our laws, as they break our laws every single day, driving, drinking and driving, selling drugs, gang members, human trafficking, etc.
Illegals and fake asylum seekers come hands out for what they can "milk" from the taxpayers, and our early immigrants came to help build a country. There was no welfare, and if they dropped babies, they paid to support. They didn't come in and wait to be given food, shelter, etc., they figured it out for themselves.
Send them home. They have emptied their prisons and mental hospitals and pointed them to our border. We can't even take care of our own. Parents are on "Go Fund Me" trying to raise money to try to save the lives of their children, or even to bury their child who is dead because of the crime that infests our country.
This is not about diveristy, it is about the laws of our country being abused by these 3rd world escapees and a demented POTUS that walk without falling over or get out of bed before ten in the morning!
There was a time when immigrants assimilated with it's host country. Today, many feel that the American melting pot has been replaced with the Swanson's TV Dinner model, with all groups remaining separate.
You're right and our government and businesses are encouraging it instead of assimilation into our main society.
Northwest Colorado, actual cowboys and sheepherders - far away from Metropolis.
Yeah, because they are representative of Hispanics in the Western region of the United States.
Must have been a dream, those nine years I spent all over the West.
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