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What do they do when I cut them with my pruners, chain saw, or put their branches in my chipper-shredded. I also do bonsai, wire, bend and grind trees, currently I have about 40, as old as 160 years but just 20" high..
What posible scientific pupose could screaming serve in plants? Are they going to rescue each other? Are they going to uproot and run from danger? Do they scream for their favorite movie stars?
Plants don't have ears. How do they "hear" the "screams" of other plants in distress.
I am not saying that plants don't generate noise when they are stressed. I have no basis not to believe the study. I am just saying it is wasted grant money to study something this stupid and the article author is sensationalizing the study when they use the term "scream". It is BS. It is stupid. Only somebody stupid would believe that plants "scream". They don't have ears and it serves no useful purpose.
If you had actually read anything, you would know that researchers say the noises made by plants are analagous to human screams. What possible purposes could this serve in plants? If you had made any effort whatsoever, you would know what scientists say about that.
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The vegan philosophy is not to starve yourself, but to try to live a lifestyle that causes the least possible harm. It's not about perfection.
No, that is your philosophy, not 'the' vegan philosophy. It seems that every vegan and vegetarian creates his own philosophy and 'degrees' of veganism and vegetarianism in which he will participate.
If you had actually read anything, you would know that researchers say the noises made by plants are analagous to human screams. What possible purposes could this serve in plants? If you had made any effort whatsoever, you would know what scientists say about that.
No, that is your philosophy, not 'the' vegan philosophy. It seems that every vegan and vegetarian creates his own philosophy and 'degrees' of veganism and vegetarianism in which he will participate.
I’m sorry you’ve experienced clouded explanations of what veganism is. This site breaks it down pretty well:
"Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals“
Vegetarian is a diet preference. Veganism is a philosophy. A plant based diet is an extension of that philosophy.
"Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals“
Vegetarian is a diet preference. Veganism is a philosophy. A plant based diet is an extension of that philosophy.
Oh, so it's no longer living beings/organisms. Just animals. So it's acceptable to exploit other living organisms. How convenient and hypocritical. Just like individuals, organizations vary in definitions also.
Oh, so it's no longer living beings/organisms. Just animals. So it's acceptable to exploit other living organisms. How convenient and hypocritical. Just like individuals, organizations vary in definitions also.
It's actually a pretty straightforward concept. If you actually read the link you might grasp it, but based on your responses it seems you're not really interested in learning anything.
If you had actually read anything, you would know that researchers say the noises made by plants are analagous to human screams. What possible purposes could this serve in plants? If you had made any effort whatsoever, you would know what scientists say about that.
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I am mocking the author of the article, not the study's author. The study never uses the word "scream". The writer of the article used "scream" in the title to sensationalize the story. He is a jerk for doing that. I am mocking him and you for falling for it.
Would you ever have made this thread using the study's actual title, "Sounds emitted by plants under stress are airborne and informative"? Nobody would have bothered to respond beyond, "uh, OK."
I am mocking the author of the article, not the study's author. The study never uses the word "scream". The writer of the article used "scream" in the title to sensationalize the story. He is a jerk for doing that. I am mocking him and you for falling for it.
Would you ever have made this thread using the study's actual title, "Sounds emitted by plants under stress are airborne and informative"? Nobody would have bothered to respond beyond, "uh, OK."
Are you saying you didn't understand that scream was used in quotes to denote referential meaning? Countless authors used scream in quotes as a referential in articles about this research That is not sensationalizing or a jerk move.
Are you saying you didn't understand that scream was used in quotes to denote referential meaning? Countless authors used scream in quotes as a referential in articles about this research That is not sensationalizing or a jerk move.
I am saying the study authors did not use the term scream AT ALL, but the jerk article author did and...
oh, sorry. I got distracted for a second by the screaming tree outside as it was being nibbled on by birds.
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