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Old 02-25-2024, 06:40 PM
 
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you are on the right path with probiotics. keep tinkering, it's a trial and error game. it also takes weeks/months to turn the gut around. i'm real high on bacillus coagulans capsules -- it's worked wonders for us.


should also be eating prebiotics (various plant fibers) and working on leaky gut too. some things that help with leaky gut are inulin, resveratrol, l-glutamine. too, need to avoid fried foods, alcohol, and fake sugar. eat clean for a few months while turning your gut around.


check out pubmed -- medical has figured out that IBS/crohns/etc are from bad gut bugs and/or leaky gut. here's a search to get you started
i will read more on bacillus coagulans capsules
thank you
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Old 02-25-2024, 08:24 PM
 
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I understand that nutritional yeast has been heated to kill the yeast microbes, so it's not a probiotic. Maybe it is minerals or vitamins in it that help.
I've got some on hand and like the flavor, I think I'll try using it more. Have to get out the scale to figure out dosage in teaspoons.

I'm having similar gut issues, and have been doing the low-FODMAP elimination diet. That cuts out most foods that have components that commonly cause gut issues, including gluten, dairy, artificial sweeteners, and many fruits and veggies.

It worked when I first did it several months ago, but I've done backslid and have just started again.
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Old 02-26-2024, 06:40 AM
 
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thank you for mentioning low FODMAP. I will read more about that because i can see already that it lists food groups known to be a problem for me.
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Old 02-26-2024, 07:38 AM
 
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i just started taking the nutritional yeast, and that is why i posted this thread topic. Because I am interested to hear and learn from others.

yes in my case it is diarrhea. no i do not have a diagnosis of IBS. the only symptom is diarrhea. Frequency has improved since eliminating caffeine. Consistency has not improved. So still trying different foods. I exercise daily (walking and qi gong), no pain, no heart problems, good blood pressure, good labs.
Am really thankful I found this thread, we're in the exact same boat; and I just love coffee and chocolate.
Unfortunately, caffeine relaxes our stomach valve; creating GERD.
Went to the Dr. twice, everything tested fine; now he wants to screen me for colorectal cancer.
Did your symptom appear suddenly?
I've been thoroughly researching foods that might be the cause, eliminating them one by one; long process though.
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Old 02-26-2024, 08:18 AM
 
Location: The Bubble, Florida
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no diagnosis. we did a bunch of stool samples including the fancy one that tests for more stuff, they all came back fine. no pain, no cramping, no gas, no bloating. doctor knows i am allergic to dairy so he said watch for hidden dairy and keep trying different foods. also watch to see if it is stress related.
Then instead of trying meds and supplements and changes in diet, try reducing your stress. You've had tests. Tests have shown everything is functioning as it should be.

Stop focusing on "gut health." Your gut is fine. If it wasn't, those tests would've come up with a diagnosis.
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Old 02-26-2024, 01:33 PM
 
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Then instead of trying meds and supplements and changes in diet, try reducing your stress. You've had tests. Tests have shown everything is functioning as it should be.

Stop focusing on "gut health." Your gut is fine. If it wasn't, those tests would've come up with a diagnosis.
stress does definitely affect it. typically i can identify the offending food, and see improvement. for instance hidden dairy. with a dairy allergy i am accustomed to notifying changes related to what i eat.

i had a series of severe dental issues over the course of a few years including oral surgery and many procedures. during that time i learned that dental health is connected to gut health, so since then i have been paying greater attention to gut health.

dental health is now at 95% great. still working on the gut health. after one of the oral surgeries and subsequent side effects (including taking antibiotics) the diarrhea became bad and that's when they said take probiotics to help clear that up. That was 4+ years ago, and still working on it.

thank you everyone for input, experience, ideas.
i do need more fiber in my diet so looking at that. and learning the difference between "loose stools" and "diarrhea." who even knew that was a thing.
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Old 02-26-2024, 01:38 PM
 
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Am really thankful I found this thread, we're in the exact same boat; and I just love coffee and chocolate.
Unfortunately, caffeine relaxes our stomach valve; creating GERD.
Went to the Dr. twice, everything tested fine; now he wants to screen me for colorectal cancer.
Did your symptom appear suddenly?
I've been thoroughly researching foods that might be the cause, eliminating them one by one; long process though.
so much of it is trial and error. I was so pleased to see an immediate improvement with eliminating caffeine. i've never liked sweets and don't drink, so no chocolate no booze was easy.

it's like being a detective and paying attention to how my body responds to what i eat. which is in the long run a good thing and healthy.

it's weird too because i'll notice if i skip a meal, i start feeling nausea. the nausea is immediately improved by eating something. so i am going to look at smaller portions throughout the day. FODMAP makes a point of small portions also, so will pay attention to that.

at this point i'm willing to start at ground zero with very bland foods and then start adding things back in. i'm curious to hear more what you find Sunbiz
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Old 02-26-2024, 01:53 PM
 
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Raw sauerkraut, an example would be Bubbies or something similar. Kimchi, Kombucha. You want foods with live cultures.

I have never read that nutritional yeast is recommended for gut health.

I love Bubbies sauerkraut and also their dill pickles are similarly probiotic. I have several jars sitting in my fridge and I take a little bit of it most days and sip on the salt water too.
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Old 02-26-2024, 01:59 PM
 
Location: PNW
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I understand that nutritional yeast has been heated to kill the yeast microbes, so it's not a probiotic. Maybe it is minerals or vitamins in it that help.
I've got some on hand and like the flavor, I think I'll try using it more. Have to get out the scale to figure out dosage in teaspoons.

I'm having similar gut issues, and have been doing the low-FODMAP elimination diet. That cuts out most foods that have components that commonly cause gut issues, including gluten, dairy, artificial sweeteners, and many fruits and veggies.

It worked when I first did it several months ago, but I've done backslid and have just started again.
Yet we were able to eat any combination of food for many decades without issue.

I never even considered eliminating coffee. What, coffee???????

I suspect in order of bad things #1 all forms of sugar #2 gluten #3 dairy
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Old 02-26-2024, 04:47 PM
 
Location: The Bubble, Florida
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stress does definitely affect it. typically i can identify the offending food, and see improvement. for instance hidden dairy. with a dairy allergy i am accustomed to notifying changes related to what i eat.

i had a series of severe dental issues over the course of a few years including oral surgery and many procedures. during that time i learned that dental health is connected to gut health, so since then i have been paying greater attention to gut health.

dental health is now at 95% great. still working on the gut health.
after one of the oral surgeries and subsequent side effects (including taking antibiotics) the diarrhea became bad and that's when they said take probiotics to help clear that up. That was 4+ years ago, and still working on it.

thank you everyone for input, experience, ideas.
i do need more fiber in my diet so looking at that. and learning the difference between "loose stools" and "diarrhea." who even knew that was a thing.
So you proved yourself wrong. You "learned" that dental health is connected to gut health. And yet, you were able to improve your dental health to 95% "great"ness, but your gut health still suffers.

Therefore, there is no connection between gut health and dental health. If there were, you wouldn't have had such rousing success with your teeth. Your gums would be bleeding, your jawbone would be disintegrating, you'd be suffering from abscesses, you'd be experiencing sinus pain (sinuses are right at the edge of your upper mouth ridge), even if you had no teeth at all.

There is a CORRELATION between digestive system illness and dental health. There is no causation, unless you're vomiting regularly or suffering from rickets. Both of those have a -direct- effect on the teeth.
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