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Old 02-15-2024, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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Well the "Sardinia" diet barely had its 15 minutes of fame. It's time for the Atlantic Diet! The son of the great Mediterranean diet, it focuses on minimally processed plant-heavy meals with as much local produce and fish and meats as practical given the seasons...
Another confirmation of Michael Pollan's concise dietary advice: “Eat food, not too much, mostly plants."

One could add the word real before food, emphasizing the importance of eschewing processed products.
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Old 02-15-2024, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Early America
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This is a good diet, and actually it is just the Mediterranean diet which has been touted for years. I agree folks would be a lot healthier, and possibly live longer if they would simplify their diets and just avoid so much fat and processed food. My grandparents were from Spain, and this diet was sooo much healthier than what most Americans eat. My abuela was a great cook, as was my dad.
Yes, the Atlantic diet is one of the regional ancestral diets in southern Europe. It has been studied for many decades. It's getting U.S. media attention at the moment because JAMA published a study about it a week or so ago. The Mediterranean Diet is based on this and the other ancestral patterns of eating that these regions share in Italy, Spain, Greece and southern France.
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Old 02-16-2024, 06:25 AM
 
Location: The Bubble, Florida
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Another confirmation of Michael Pollan's concise dietary advice: “Eat food, not too much, mostly plants."

One could add the word real before food, emphasizing the importance of eschewing processed products.
They say minimally processed, since even just cooking your food qualifies as "processed." You can make stews. You can make sun-tea (putting teabags in a jar of water and letting it sit out in the sun to steep). But it still ends up "processed" in some manner or the other.

So - minimally processed is the term used to accommodate things like baking, broiling, grilling, stewing.
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Old 02-18-2024, 08:09 AM
 
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Another confirmation of Michael Pollan's concise dietary advice: “Eat food, not too much, mostly plants."

One could add the word real before food, emphasizing the importance of eschewing processed products.
The Atlantic traditional diet is high in fish and seafood consumption and moderate consumption of meat (beef, pork). It includes plentiful plants and chestnuts, in particular, as well. The Atlantic diet is less starchy (less bread, pasta, cereal, potatoes and rice) and more fish and meat than the Mediterranean diet.
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Old 02-18-2024, 08:21 AM
 
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The Atlantic traditional diet is high in fish and seafood consumption and moderate consumption of meat (beef, pork). It includes plentiful plants and chestnuts, in particular, as well. The Atlantic diet is less starchy (less bread, pasta, cereal, potatoes and rice) and more fish and meat than the Mediterranean diet.
Whole grain breads and potatoes are a BIG part of the Atlantic diet. It's just as starchy, but more limited as to the sources of the starch.
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Old 02-18-2024, 08:22 AM
 
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They say minimally processed, since even just cooking your food qualifies as "processed." You can make stews. You can make sun-tea (putting teabags in a jar of water and letting it sit out in the sun to steep). But it still ends up "processed" in some manner or the other.

So - minimally processed is the term used to accommodate things like baking, broiling, grilling, stewing.
Cooking is a form of food processing but not the form that minimally-processed means. Minimally-processed indicates the level of processing a food has undergone when you acquire it---before you do anything to it.

In the Atlantic traditional diet clinical trial, the participants were provided with baskets of local, seasonal unprocessed and minimally-processed foods in accordance with the region's ancestral/traditional diet.

Minimally-processed food examples are bags of dry beans, legumes, rice and other whole grains, vegetables, fruits, and fresh cuts of meat, poultry or fish.

Moderately-processed foods may contain added components but typically not more than four. Canned beans and vegetables with 4 or less added components are examples of moderately-processed foods.

Ultra-processed foods have undergone multiple manufacturing processes, stripping them of nutrients, and have five or more added ingredients that don't exist naturally.
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Old 02-18-2024, 08:28 AM
 
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Cooking is a form of food processing but not the form that minimally-processed means. Minimally-processed indicates the level of processing a food has undergone when you acquire it---before you do anything to it.

In the Atlantic traditional diet clinical trial, the participants were provided with baskets of local, seasonal unprocessed and minimally-processed foods in accordance with the region's ancestral/traditional diet.

Minimally-processed food examples are bags of dry beans, legumes, rice and other whole grains, vegetables, fruits, and fresh cuts of meat, poultry or fish.

Moderately-processed foods may contain added components but typically not more than four. Canned beans and vegetables with 4 or less added components are examples of moderately-processed foods.

Ultra-processed foods have undergone multiple manufacturing processes, stripping them of nutrients, and have five or more added ingredients that don't exist naturally.
...and if you buy a loaf of bread at the local family bakery, which uses no preservatives, artificial anything, just yeast, flour, water, maybe egg, seeds, dried fruits - that is also MINIMALLY PROCESSED.

Vegetables, fruits, fresh cuts of meat are UNprocessed, not minimally processed.

The processing is processing, no matter who did the processing.
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Old 02-18-2024, 09:16 AM
 
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Whole grain breads and potatoes are a BIG part of the Atlantic diet. It's just as starchy, but more limited as to the sources of the starch.
The big, significant parts of the Atlantic diet are consuming locally sourced fish and seafood in high amounts and seasonal plant foods.

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...and if you buy a loaf of bread at the local family bakery, which uses no preservatives, artificial anything, just yeast, flour, water, maybe egg, seeds, dried fruits - that is also MINIMALLY PROCESSED.

Vegetables, fruits, fresh cuts of meat are UNprocessed, not minimally processed.

The processing is processing, no matter who did the processing.
Research what minimally processed means in the food industry and for purposes of research, and then read the study. Participants were provided with "local, fresh, and minimally processed seasonal foods like vegetables, fruits, whole grains, beans and olive oil." Participants were also provided with cooking lessons and cooked their own meals.
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