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Covid cases have been rising, and there is a new variant. The pro-vaxxers say cases are increasing because too many people have been careless and did not keep up with the boosters.
But some covid vaccines skeptics are saying it's actually because the mRNA vaccines make you MORE vulnerable to covid. They say that most of these cases are among the vaccinated.
Ok, well, yes, most of the cases are probably among the vaccinated, because most people have been vaccinated. But most did not keep up with boosters.
Now, the important question is whether the increase in cases is because of the vaccines, or because of not getting boosters?
Some research suggests that the covid mRNA vaccines increase the level of igg4 antibodies to the covid spike-- these are antibodies that suppress immune response. They tell the immune system this protein is ok don't destroy it. That is the opposite of what they wanted or expected to happen.
Also, covid vaccine skeptics say these vaccines weaken the immune system and make you more vulernable to infections in general. That could be why so many people seem to be getting flu also.
So this is a hard question to find answers to. Mainstream medicine and the drug industry will of course say it's because of not enough vaccines. And the skeptics say the opposite.
What would be needed is research comparing cases per capita for those who got all the shots, vs those who only got some or none.
But there would be a confound, because people who got all the shots are also more likely to be careful and isolate.
You start with a faulty premise that vaccines prevent infection rather than reduce severity. And then follow with that increasing cases are due to the vaccine, or alternately because of the vaccine, but don't include other reasons -- for example seasonal upticks, variant-based communicability, and so forth which are typical for viruses. In fact this season's uptick is less than earlier years. Funny how people are just so piqued by vaccines. Kind of fun to watch it happen (over and over) though.
You start with a faulty premise that vaccines prevent infection rather than reduce severity. And then follow with that increasing cases are due to the vaccine, or alternately because of the vaccine, but don't include other reasons -- for example seasonal upticks, variant-based communicability, and so forth which are typical for viruses. In fact this season's uptick is less than earlier years. Funny how people are just so piqued by vaccines. Kind of fun to watch it happen (over and over) though.
I SAID no one knows if the increase in cases is because of the vaccines or because of not enough boosters. How did you miss that?
Sigh...in terms of Covid vaxxing it's been relatively peaceful around here. Apparently, all good things do come to an end. I guess some just can't resist dangling and taking fresh bait!
My point was they could decide between those two options by comparing those who got all the boosters with those who did not.
Better to count severe cases than just cases.
The vaccine immunity benefit, to whatever level is stimulated in any particular person, wears off over time. Naturally, older and immune compromised will see less benefit and less duration from them.
I don't know when the last "boosters" were administered, as they debuted over a year ago, but the new Covid vaccine is not called a booster.
The virus has evolved, hence the need for an updated vaccine. I read recently that Covid hospitalizations were currently around 29K, about double influenza hospitalizations.
Unfortunately this respiratory virus seems like its here to stay, just like the flu.
The notion that the vaccines would cause more people to be hospitalized for covid, or flu, is nonsense IMO.
I didn't get an Omicron booster or the new vaccine, for what that's worth.
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