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Old 01-28-2024, 10:03 PM
 
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No no, this is strictly for weight loss - I'm not diabetic.

She had much praise for the drug.
Well, Wegovy is what she SHOULD have prescribed since that is the version FDA-approved for weight loss. Lucky you! Maybe she uses it herself? My doctor is a male beanpole who can't relate.
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Old 01-29-2024, 08:20 AM
 
Location: The Bubble, Florida
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I can be bald with no risk to my kidney. I can be bald and still fit and in good shape. I can be bald and wear a scarf or wig to cover it up.

I can also be overweight and fit and in good shape. I can be overweight and wear clothing to flatter my figure, whatever it might look like.

I can be confident in myself, and have self-worth and dignity, to know that I'm a loveable person, and love myself, no matter how much or little hair I have on my head or how many inches I might have on my hips.
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Old 01-29-2024, 08:24 AM
 
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What annoys me is that despite my exercise and healthy diet, I couldn't shed the extra pounds. Meanwhile, people who don't do either are able to get weight loss medications simply because they are overweight and have (say, for example...) Type 2 Diabetes (which is usually the result of unhealthy lifestyle habits). That just seems unjust to me.

Of course, being overweight doesn't automatically equal being healthy, but if I had to pick between being overweight or bald, as long as I'm healthy, I'd accept whatever fate brings.
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Old 01-29-2024, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Mayberry
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I have no idea how or why they started giving those meds to people to lose weight. I don't see how it's legal, using it off-lable for weight loss. Blows my mind.
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Old 01-29-2024, 09:29 AM
 
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What annoys me is that despite my exercise and healthy diet, I couldn't shed the extra pounds. Meanwhile, people who don't do either are able to get weight loss medications simply because they are overweight and have (say, for example...) Type 2 Diabetes (which is usually the result of unhealthy lifestyle habits). That just seems unjust to me.

Of course, being overweight doesn't automatically equal being healthy, but if I had to pick between being overweight or bald, as long as I'm healthy, I'd accept whatever fate brings.
Those meds are -intended- for use to treat Diabetes II. Weight loss is a side effect of the meds, which is why it started becoming a trend to prescribe for weight loss in people who didn't have Diabetes II. That is called "off label" prescription. Now, some of those meds are approved by the FDA to use if you don't have Diabetes II.

Being overweight and costing taxpayers, and anyone who pays high insurance costs because they're not poor enough for Medicaid, is unjust.

These meds are $1000 PER WEEK. And you have to be on them for a minimum of three months, and might have to be on them forever. If your insurance covers it, then you can bet every cent you DON'T spend on it, that MY premiums are high because of YOUR desire to take a $1000/week drug just to "shed extra pounds."

Learn to love your body as it is. If you are a bit tubby, but otherwise healthy, and eat well, and get appropriate exercise, then accept that you are a bit tubby. The only shame in being overweight is the shame you assign to it.
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Old 01-29-2024, 09:38 AM
 
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I have no idea how or why they started giving those meds to people to lose weight. I don't see how it's legal, using it off-lable for weight loss. Blows my mind.
Using Ozempic for weight loss would be prescribing off-label (which is not illegal; it's done all the time). But the subsequent Wegovy is specifically for weight loss.
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Old 01-29-2024, 10:09 AM
 
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Those meds are -intended- for use to treat Diabetes II. Weight loss is a side effect of the meds, which is why it started becoming a trend to prescribe for weight loss in people who didn't have Diabetes II. That is called "off label" prescription. Now, some of those meds are approved by the FDA to use if you don't have Diabetes II.

Being overweight and costing taxpayers, and anyone who pays high insurance costs because they're not poor enough for Medicaid, is unjust.

These meds are $1000 PER WEEK. And you have to be on them for a minimum of three months, and might have to be on them forever. If your insurance covers it, then you can bet every cent you DON'T spend on it, that MY premiums are high because of YOUR desire to take a $1000/week drug just to "shed extra pounds."

Learn to love your body as it is. If you are a bit tubby, but otherwise healthy, and eat well, and get appropriate exercise, then accept that you are a bit tubby. The only shame in being overweight is the shame you assign to it.
Otterhere is correct.

Wegovy is specifically for weight loss. It does not have anything to do with regulating diabetes.
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Old 01-29-2024, 10:15 AM
 
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Otterhere is correct.

Wegovy is specifically for weight loss. It does not have anything to do with regulating diabetes.
But, mind you, it's the exact same drug.
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Old 01-29-2024, 10:53 AM
 
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But, mind you, it's the exact same drug.
Yes.

It is still mildly frustrating for me.

As someone that worked very hard to eat well and exercise, because I don't have the required BMI or health-related conditions, but still struggle to lose weight, I guess I was more hopeful that these medications could offer some help for those that while technically aren't considered overweight or obese, but still have high fat in certain areas because of the way they gain weight.

All drugs have some quantity of side effects to them, and while I hope that the FDA will thoroughly investigate these reports and determine the safety of these medications, I also understand that it is important for the agency to closely monitor any potential risks associated with them.

Like with anything, one has to consider the potential benefits and risks when deciding to take a medication.

Suicidal thoughts is more severe then hair loss, from what I can tell the occurrence is low and there could be other factors at play, so I would also want to know more about these cases.
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Old 01-29-2024, 11:04 AM
 
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I share your frustration because, even though I DO qualify for Wegovy (with a BMI of just under 30 and hyperlipidemia), I can't get a prescription from my doctor, who is either misinformed as to qualifying conditions or just contrary. I, like you, have tried every way possible to lose my extra 15-20 pounds and can't (post-menopausal female with a low metabolism). Although I'm "just overweight," I'm actually starting to wonder if I'll end up being the fattest person I know because everyone else will have gotten on these drugs!
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